Subj : Why Windows won't spe To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Mon Nov 18 2024 07:20:00 Hi Ky! > > You'll be glad to know even Linux (or at least Ubuntu) had this problem > > some years back. My old NAS would not talk to some of the new computers > > (probably with newer OS versions). Ended up I had to tell the mount > > line in fstab to use "vers=1.0". > KM> Oh. Which line is this? Because linux STILL has the same > KM> problem. It will allow Win10-newer or 11 to see and have its way > KM> with the linux files, but not Win10-older or anything before, > KM> even if they see each other. > OK, possibly that aspect: nothing is running Windows here except the one > Virtual Machine with XP so no experience. KM> Yeah, they're trying to make sure I only run old Windows in a VM KM> too. Currently here the only reason for running Windows is to get ILink. ....Should switch it all to SeaMonkey (but first!). Also have the software for the X10 (home automation) stuff on it (VM XP) but switched that over to a Raspberry Pi. Also occasionally ran utilities to repair/ recover thumbdrives but those generally failed: if the underlying Linux system doesn't see the thumbrive (or see it properly) then the Windows on top of the Linux system probably doesn't see it either. KM> Today I'm trying to figure out why the one Win11 is constantly KM> downloading... something, to the limit of the available KM> connection. It was a preview build (cuz that's the one I could KM> get intact, the real thing won't complete the download) but it KM> doesn't seem to be updating. Something like 'Task Manager' or 'System Monitor' to see what programme is doing the download? Years ago I had a tangential problem: SchedulesDirect (for MythTV - provides the TV programme listings) was not updating. Somehow found out the reason was because I had a 'constant connection' to their website, so I used some sort of IP monitor to discover that information. Shut off the offending computer (it was a laptop I was testing but don't recal why I installed MythTV on it); regained my SchedulesDirect data a few hours later. (The remote site had temporarily blacklisted my connection and automatically reset.) KM> But I'm wondering if it's also why linux generally won't speak to KM> older Windows too, despite that the LiveCD of the same distro did KM> so just fine. KM> So which line am I fixing?? The green one. If the LiveCD worked but the installed version does not I'm thinking compare the configurations. Files > Other Locations > Windows Network > select computer. Another option is at the bottom of the Other Locations panel is "Connect to Server" and try a new connection. I have also used tools like Remmina, TigerVNC, and now NoMachine to connect to the desktops of remote computers. Only Linux here, so no experience with Windows, etc., but Remmina does have RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) and I think that's for Windows. > KM> It's just bizarre that they can't make this backward compatible > KM> without whining about "security risks". You just handle > KM> networking, and let me worry about my own bloody security! > That's probably the issue: most people don't know how to run those > details on their computers. Those stories of people using the CD tray > as a cup holder and stuffing money in the floppy slot are true! ...To > me a warning/reminder of a potential problem is nice, but yes, let me > get around it if I need to, plus have the option to stop whining about > the specific incident. KM> It wouldn't be that hard to have it disabled by default, but when KM> you try to use it (like for contacting older device) have it pop KM> up with "You need to enable..." and a Control Panel link. Just KM> like they do when something needs a runtime module. That way the KM> morons would be protected and the rest of us could fix what we KM> need to. It's creating the linked popups that's creating the problem with the programmers! KM> But instead it just acts like there's nothing to see on the KM> network. Yes, and sometimes the error messages give barely a clue other than "oh hey: something's wrong". ¯ ® ¯ BarryMartin3@MyMetronet.NET ® ¯ ® --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com (454:1/1) .