Subj : Re: Why Windows won't spe
To   : Barry Martin
From : Ky Moffet
Date : Sun Nov 17 2024 12:00:00

BARRY MARTIN wrote:
> Hi Ky!
>   > You'll be glad to know even Linux (or at least Ubuntu) had this problem
>   > some years back.  My old NAS would not talk to some of the new computers
>   > (probably with newer OS versions).  Ended up I had to tell the mount
>   > line in fstab to use "vers=1.0".
>   KM> <blink> Oh. Which line is this? Because linux STILL has the same
>   KM> problem. It will allow Win10-newer or 11 to see and have its way
>   KM> with the linux files, but not Win10-older or anything before,
>   KM> even if they see each other.
>   
> OK< possibly that aspect: nothing is running Windows here except the one
> Virtual Machine with XP so no experience.

Yeah, they're trying to make sure I only run old Windows in a VM too.

Today I'm trying to figure out why the one Win11 is constantly 
downloading... something, to the limit of the available connection. It 
was a preview build (cuz that's the one I could get intact, the real 
thing won't complete the download) but it doesn't seem to be updating.

But I'm wondering if it's also why linux generally won't speak to older 
Windows too, despite that the LiveCD of the same distro did so just fine.

So which line am I fixing??


>   KM> It's just bizarre that they can't make this backward compatible
>   KM> without whining about "security risks". You just handle
>   KM> networking, and let me worry about my own bloody security!
> 
> That's probably the issue: most people don't know how to run those
> details on their computers.  Those stories of people using the CD tray
> as a cup holder and stuffing money in the floppy slot are true!  ...To
> me a warning/reminder of a potential problem is nice, but yes, let me
> get around it if I need to, plus have the option to stop whining about
> the specific incident.

It wouldn't be that hard to have it disabled by default, but when you 
try to use it (like for contacting older device) have it pop up with 
"You need to enable..." and a Control Panel link. Just like they do when 
something needs a runtime module. That way the morons would be protected 
and the rest of us could fix what we need to.

But instead it just acts like there's nothing to see on the network.
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