Subj : The smoke got let out To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Sun Aug 01 2021 07:24:00 Hi Ky! > Yup, that's the ending: "smoke got let out". Good thing was not > literally. KM> Ooops!! As long as only an 'oops' and not an 'ohhh sheeeet'....! > Last night opened the failed Ethernet switch just for fun -- combination > of see what's inside and maybe repair or maybe snag a few parts (I do > some electronics hobbyist stuff.) Did find the problem: two > electrolytic capacitors have a noticeable bulge. Brand is Acon, and > yes, they're on the list of manufacturers who had a manufacturing > problem years ago. "Interestingly" the failed cap's are on the load > side of a small power transformer while the those on the line side look > fine. KM> Yeouch. Yeah, failing capacitors cause all manner of weird KM> glitches. And part of the function of a electrolytic capacitor is to remove AC ripples and line noise, not create it. KM> Couple years ago my old switch failed (it just ceased talking to KM> anything, and went from unpleasantly warm to HOT) and I had to KM> replace it. Settled on the TP-Link TL-SG108, 8 port gigabit KM> switch (at the time about $22), bought from their official eBay KM> store, cuz it was handy. KM> In fact I liked the first one so much that I promptly bought two KM> more (so far!) and left 'em a glowing review. Literally plug in KM> anything any which way (auto port sensing so doesn't matter if KM> you use regular or crossover cables, nor which cable goes to the KM> router), plug in the rather generic wall-wart, and it Just Works. KM> Metal body, compact, and generates only a tiny fraction as much KM> heat as the old switch; in fact despite that it's fanless, I have KM> yet to notice either of the two in everyday use getting warm at KM> all, even when busy. I gather this is because any port that's not KM> in use goes into sleep mode. Doesn't use enough power to register KM> on the UPS. The old one hardly generated any sort of warmth either and AFAIK didn't heat up after the failure either -- 'course the failure in the power supply could have fried the switch part and so nothing to create heat! (It looked unharmed; doesn't take much to open junctions.) KM> Can also be daisy-chained, as I did initially before rearranging KM> what's stuck to the router. Right: the old ones had a specific port for input, and some a mechanical switch to turn on and off the function. > So with the patched system the live stream videos from the cameras are > back to normal. Have the heat issue still but that's something > different. The 'external accesses' are perkier -- before an ever-so- > slight sluggishness had crept in. Still seems a little odd the one > system for monitoring the live stream was the only one showing a > problem, and didn't show a problem with packet errors. KM> Your attic needs an exhaust fan; that would help a lot. I get voted down on that option. ...And I'm not recalling seeing any house with a fan, not that I'm actively looking and not the fan is on the other side. The 'thing' around here, and what we have, is ridge venting plus roof vents. Also a lighter-coloured shingle. KM> And bad KM> caps can do stuff like make stuff sluggish rather than failing KM> entirely. (Eg. slow or spotty USB access = bad caps on the KM> southbridge circuit. Right: one of the first things I thought of when everything returned to normal was the failed capacitors in the Ethernet Switch are acting like a failing Southbridge circuit. KM> And I think I just had one such that's on KM> its way out sort of randomly scramble a directory when I did a KM> normal file save... part vanished, part reappeared somewhere else KM> entirely, replacing another directory of the same name, but KM> without deleting anything... no files to recover... Well, we KM> won't be trusting THAT system anymore...) Or at least the motherboard part! I could sort of see the scrambling and re-arranging: I think directory names (along with everything else) are just a 'translation' of the ones and zereos: the 14th entry is 1110 and there's a table somewhere to say #14 = Pictures. Flip a binary digit to 1010 and now it's in #10 so in some other directory. (Super- simplied but close-enough to get the concept across.) ¯ BarryMartin3@ ® ¯ @MyMetronet.NET ® .... Error #4309: user confused with the purpose of punctuation. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .