Subj : Steampunk Pi To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Mon Aug 10 2020 08:04:00 Hi Ky! KM> Chris has a new video comparing various OSs for x64 RPi: KM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80CU1j36Q6s Thanks! Think I'll wait until the 64-bit Raspi OS comes out -- didn't realize (guess more pay attention) to the 32 or 64 bit option -- usually I just stick in a 64-bit installer, if that doesn't work use a 32-bit one. With the RPi hadn't paid attention - just installs KM> He's a bit behind on KDE vs XFCE, tho -- there's no longer much KM> difference in resources required (about 100mb RAM), and KDE is a KM> lot better optimized. Not disagreeing, just at this point not really needing to switch. (That could change!) KM> I still love how his punky pi looks! :) My concern for doing something like that here is the cpu fan or something else getting hit. > > When the wheel needs repair you're not going anywhere! > KM> True! unless the horse runs away with you... > Just keep repeating to yourself "it's an adventure! It's an > adventure!"!! KM> Adventure: somebody else, having a difficult time, a long ways KM> away. Few states away must quality! > KM> My criteria are easy to navigate and easy to work on, and doesn't > KM> make my eyes bleed. Others' eyes may vary, especially since the > KM> color scheme on the Twilight Asylum is purple, green, red, and > KM> yellow. > I'm thinking I might know where the 'asylum' part came about! KM> Hahaha... actually it's an album by Oscar, a 1970s glam band. KM> When I was DJing, I played it all the time. Hmmm: not bad! > KM> IBM used to have some wonderful Dilbertesque ads... still looking > KM> for their BS detector ad... > I did a quick look also but didn't see anything; 10 MB HDD for $3398! KM> Those data recovery outfits that work for legal firms, they'll KM> pay anything... Just add it to the bill someone else is paying! > Which reminds me of a good lesson: don't have your waste basket next to > the table being used as the computer work bench! KM> Ah yes... I know people who have suffered from this... I don't KM> need trash, I just need to lay something down and it's never seen KM> again. Your retriever dogs are a little too "retrievy'! > KM> The best was from before green screens, tho... 1960s, KRTV in > KM> Great Falls MT, studio was up on a hill and sat in the sun all > KM> day, no air conditioning and it got HOT in there. So since in > KM> those days they sat at a desk to read the news, they'd wear the > KM> suit jacket on top... and just underwear below. One night no one > KM> noticed that when they got up to file out of the studio, the > KM> camera was still live.... > Oops!! Similar but not quite as good was a male anchor on WBZ-TV > (Boston) was 'made' to get out from behind the desk at the end of the > news: suit jacket, shirt and tie on top - shorts and sandals on the > lower supposed-to-be-hidden bottom. KM> Well, at least he was fully dressed! they'd come in fully dressed KM> but due to the oven-like qualities of the studio, had shucked KM> their pants... Haven't been in a studio in ages but was a little warm and I was sitting in the back in the shadows. > And locally (WOC-TV) a klutzy lanky meteorologist. At the time used a > wall panel map and the Iowa/Illinois portion was pushed out to > emphasize. He crossed over and was a little too close so got pushed by > the map section, lost his balance and fell of the platform! KM> That took talent :D Yup! Few other 'fun' bloopers: old-old days they'd prop up a card the weather satellite picture was printed on on a small easel. I think the card was only 4x6" but with the close-up filled the screen. Every so often it would slip off or a breeze knock it off -- good news is with the close-up just a blurred background, though once in a while would see a hand catching or putting the card back up. > > Yup! ...Because of the past experiences with slow loading/booting and > > the file system barrier I've pretty much have stayed with 32 GB and > KM> Applies only if you're using FAT32, which I can't imagine why you > KM> would in this day and age. Default on most flash drives now is > KM> exFAT. exFAT looks like FAT32, but is its own thing. Older > KM> Windows will need an exFAT driver to see 'em. > OK, thanks. Have a bunch of older flash drives in various physical > formats. Know some are FAT32 and they're fine except when copying large > video files -- only get the first 4 GB! At the time 4 GB would be > everything but the last ten or fifteen minutes of the show -- what > the...!!! KM> Yeah, FAT32 has a 4GB limit, and the copy will either fail or KM> truncate at that point. I always just reformat 'em as NTFS, that KM> way no such limit and they work with everything (except DOS, but KM> DOS doesn't do USB gracefully anyway). Yup: first few times the file was truncated thought maybe the thumbdrive was faulty or something had gone wrong with the copy. Looked up and found out about the 4 GB limit; formatted and solved that problem! > Back to the 'stay with 32 GB' comment, wasn't a capacity issue but > loading speed. Not recalling or even sure if I know the format of the > 64 GB cards but the problem was it took f-o-r-e-v-e-r to load (boot > time), and I think also bring up the file utility (Thunar?). Could be > more of an issue with the old Raspberry Pi's -- slower processor, etc. KM> I think there's a hardware incompatibility in some USB3 drives, KM> at least vs middle-aged PCs; it seems to trigger at old capacity KM> boundaries. I've had problems with flash drives larger than KM> 128GB, where they get so slow they look hung (it may be reverting KM> to USB1 speed, because if you wait long enough -- like 15 minutes KM> -- eventually the copy finishes). Some BIOSs had a 64GB barrier KM> and might behave similarly with larger flash drives. Don't know KM> why there'd be an issue with 32GB, other than the FAT32 issue, KM> but an old USB chip might have any number of peculiar ideas.** KM> Might just be the old Pi's 32bit ARM processor, which was no KM> speed demon and may have had limits that don't apply to the rest KM> of the computing world. KM> Chris did a speed test of 32bit vs 64bit Pi OS, and the 64bit was KM> about 2.5 times faster on the same CPU-intensive operation. (Per KM> my benchmarks on random PCs, I find 64bit OS runs about 40% KM> faster than 32bit OS. Definitely an advantage here!) KM> ** Such as the AMD boards that have USB2, but during boot it only KM> functions as USB1. Slower to boot from flash than from CD or KM> floppy! Never seen this with Intel, but several times with AMD, KM> so probably a defect in the associated and often crappy chipset. All that could be: had more or less figured the 32 GB SD card was the maximum the older Pi's liked to work with at a speed I liked. Haven't tried with the RPi4 as so far don't need the additional storage space. As for that l-o-n-g pause, don't recall which size but probably more the 16- to 32 GB range as that's the largest capacities of thumbdrives I have. (Talking the 'stick', not the little card the RPi's use.) Did copy some large files for sneakernet and get towards the end of the copy process and looked like the process had stalled but just running really-really slowly. > KM> Can't keep up with the too many things I seem to be interested > KM> in, especially during baseball season (Tarnish and one of the > KM> Dells are busy displaying Angels and Dodgers games as we > KM> speak...) > The husband of one of the store managers was really into sports: she > said he had several TVs and they'd be on different channels so he could > watch them all at once. KM> Scheduling games at the same time, what were they thinking??! Ratings! The usual fan has one TV and so would have to choose which game to watch, and that game would gain a Nielsen point! > KM> ...must remember that Project Farm has a new product comparison > KM> vid I want to see (tho I don't remember what product!) > The 19" Pixer CRT to the 20" Samsung CRT!! You really need to trim that > list!! KM> Which one makes a bigger pop when used for target practice? Let's KM> find out! That brought back an incomplete memory: at the time I was a teenager and took apart defective TVs and radios for their parts. Had a CRT needed to put out in the trash -- Dad and I knew it was unsafe just to put out curbside ==> fall over, crack the neck, glass all over the place. Similar if the trashman picks up by neck to swing into the truck. Recall we put the tube into an old trash can but seems we also broke the vacuum -- how we did that I don't recall. Seems the seal was slowly broken as I recall hearing a hiss but I don't recall doing it and doubt Dad or I would risk being that close to potential flying glass. Firing a gun - probably not as in the city, though there was a big hill and woods behind the back yard. > > > .. Screen. Mind. Both are blank. > KM> What did we just say?! > I didn't say anything: I was typing! KM> Click-click-click... 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