Subj : Spammers And More To : Daryl Stout From : Barry Martin Date : Fri Nov 19 2021 08:20:00 Hi Daryl! DS> First, sorry about the long message. Okaaaay..... BM> That takes care of the specific name but I had the feeling Mike's BM> nuisance was more than a just a single name. DS> I've blocked IP's and hostnames, mainly from slamming the DS> ports, or trying to relay spam. There is apparently a problem DS> with folks sending email back to the BBS (validation issues), so DS> it's basically just for use with the Telnet Email Verifier, and DS> to send Netmail (FTN or QWK). Just another one of those 'complicated issues': spammer gets detected, the SysOp/It Guy/whomever figures out how to block - at this level might be as simple as by name. Spammer uses different name; that name gets blocked. Spammer uses anothr name; this time gets blocked by IP. Spammer uses another technique..... BM> Yes, there are ways to say things without saying or mentioning things. DS> Cue the long [bleep tone]. :P Years ago (more like decades) we occasonally watched The Jerry Springer Show occasionally -- at the time sometimes interesting and "how other people live". Got to the point it seemed three-quarters of the show was bleeped out and we had lost what they were trying to say. (I presume not nearly as bad on his judge show - so far not gotten around to watching.) BM> My Mother sort of had that rule also, just for a slightly different BM> reason: the toilet had the covers on it (tank, seat -- this was back in BM> the 60's and 70's) and if the lid was left up then the 'pretty seat' BM> didn't show. DS> Well, you didn't want to be sitting on that seat if you weren't DS> sitting there for the main purpose. That's why they refer to it DS> as "the busiest seat in the house". Oddly enough (well, consider the source!) not heard of that. BM> The two work hand-in-hand: can manipulate the direction of thinking BM> with the words plus psychological 'tricks'. DS> She was fantastic at trivia and word games. Also, at my Dad's DS> funeral, one of his sisters had been "shunned" by the family. DS> Well, my wife was willing to spend time and talk with her. Plus as a new addition to the family Janice didn't have all the 'written history', which may have had some factual errors. So could have been a good time to either verify that sister is indeed in need to be shunned or discover it was a big misunderstanding. DS> As for DS> me, she said "I like a challenge". :P Just over 2 1/2 months DS> later, 3 weeks shy of our 4th wedding anniversary, I lost her to DS> a heart attack. Unfortunately. BM> I had to go back a few paragraphs: I had forgotten you were talking BM> about Janice and thinking your mother! DS> I never my my Mom "indecently"...but saw my wife "in all her DS> glory". I may have told this before, but there were 2 instances DS> before we "became an item" where "she took care of me". She also DS> had a dachshund...although with the first time I met her, the DS> bitch (the dog, not her ), didn't like me, and pooped on my DS> shoe. It's generally a clue that if their dog doesn't like you, DS> the person won't either...but this may have been more like "You DS> don't mess with my Momma". :P Dogs of all sizes can be very protective of their humans (and other charges -- I'm thinking of those dogs guarding sheep, etc.) DS> The second dachshund had a part in us "becoming an item", which DS> I'll detail shortly. Basically, I figured if she didn't take care DS> of me beforehand, she wouldn't take care of me after we said "I DS> do". We were friends for 17 1/2 years, and never thought of DS> marriage, let alone to each other...but I'm getting ahead of DS> myself in the reply. The second one had to be put down about a DS> year and a half before my wife died. We got a new one 3 months DS> later, but I re-homed him the day my wife died. DS> 1) One evening, I had gone to her place, to help her with DS> computer issues. We had met on a BBS run by the computer science DS> had admonished me to NOT lean back in the chair. As a type A DS> The chair tipped over (it bit me in the back). She said, "OK, DS> take off your shirt", and promptly broke out the First Aid kit, DS> and began swabbing, cleaning, and banadging the wound. DS> where my PCP (at that time) was working. They said "Whoever DS> worked on this wiped out any chance of infection". If you're going to do something may as well do it right! DS> Now, he had one of those retractable leashes...which I DS> originally thought were fantastic. Basically, it let the dog go DS> in the poop filled grass, and I stayed on the sidewalk. Well, as DS> I got back, I had the leash in front of my groin...which nearly DS> became a fatal mistake. :P Those leashes seem like a good idea to allow the dog a bit of range but I'm a little afraid they might allow too much range and the dog gets hit by a car. DS> Somehow, the leash came off his collar, retracted at full DS> speed, and popped me in the groin where it hurts the most...and I DS> fell to the ground. I now live in dread fear of these DS> things...just like with the MagLite flashlight...when I dropped DS> it on the second toe of my right foot, and fractured it the toe. I'd rather have a broken toe! DS> So, I embarrasingly asked if she'd "take a look". As noted, I DS> was in great pain, and "getting frisky" was the last thing on my DS> mind. So, I dropped my pants and underwear before her. I thought DS> she would dump me like a hot rock for "exposing myself", and DS> asked her "Do you think any less of me??". Lots of variables on 'exposure'. In this instance not classified as 'indecent exposure' but 'medical examination'. DS> She replied "I give you credit for your common sense. I would DS> have called 911 if I had seen blood". Or probably if a mangling. DS> I knew, RIGHT THEN, that THIS WAS THE GIRL I WAS GOING TO DS> MARRY. I gave her a big hug (I was practically in tears, both of DS> pain, and joy), and proposed 2 days later. We went to a local DS> K-Mart that was going out of business, and got a wedding ring for DS> $25 (it was originally nearly $200...talk about a steal!!). For DS> grins, I recently looked at the price of some of the engagement DS> and wedding rings nowadays, and they're in the stratosphere!! I DS> think of the meme where the guy has a washer/ring/lugnut from a DS> car engine hose, and the caption says "He went to NAPA" (never DS> mind Jared) . Back in the old days it seemed like every time an item passed through a vendor the price doubled, so the diamond probably cost the store $100, K-Mart Corp. bought for $50, etc. When the stores were closed they were usually sold to a liquidating company -- not sure how they did things but more bought the contents and 'garage sale prices' the individual items. DS> When we went to get wedding invitations, the sample had the DS> name of my ex-fiance' from years ago on the sample, and it was DS> spelled the same way (Daryl and Pamela). I said "I think I'm DS> going to puke", and Janice was laughing like crazy. :P What are the odds?! DS> Unlike Janice, who didn't care whether we ate at McDonald's or DS> Olive Garden (to her, "food was food")...Pam always wanted me to DS> take her to the most expensive place, always pick up the tab, and DS> forsake all hobbies and everything outside of work, to spend DS> every waking moment with her. Basically, she was to do all the DS> "taking", and I was to do all the "giving". That type of DS> relationship is doomed to failure. There are times when I/we get a hankerin' for a fancier meal and sometimes it's "you know I'm really hungry for beans and hot dogs". DS> I broke off the engagement before Christmas one year...she DS> thought I was a Scrooge, but I felt as if the weight of the world DS> had been lifted off of my shoulders. She even accused me of DS> "using her". Would you please explain to me that when you're DS> doing all the "giving" that you're "using someone". That type of person usually only sees others as being in the wrong, never would be them as having any part in the wrongfdoing. As for timing (before Christmas), could also have been before some other event: an anniversary/monthly celebration, birthday of Aunt Agnes, solar eclipse..... DS> Before announcing our engagement, both of us had gone to see DS> our respective pastors for "marriage counseling", and both agreed DS> that "both of you have a good head on your shoulders". Sadly, I DS> doubt that many folks going into a relationship nowadays will DS> even consider going through marriage counseling. It's more like DS> the marriage counselor in "The Lockhorns" comic strip, with Leroy DS> and Loretta (I don't recall the name of the counselor in the DS> comic strip...I want to say his name was I. Pullman). I'd also be listening to the considerations of those around you: they'll be around if she shoots barbs at him or he drools over someone else. DS> Time wise, the service had just ended (I was late leaving the DS> apartment), and as we walked in, we were greeted with "Ah!! The DS> Bride And Groom!!". I said "Well, we're NOT married YET!!". We DS> sat down to eat, and afterwards, the preacher said "I guess I DS> need to go put my marryin' clothes on"...and, Jan headed back to DS> a separate room to change into her bridal outfit. The preacher DS> than came to me, and said "Let's just go over here in the corner, DS> and quietly die!!"...to which, I replied "Thank you for the DS> confidence boost, pastor". :P I wonder if he said 'pray' and you misheard it?! DS> done so!!". I did not invite my parents to the wedding, DS> as they were against it. Yet, afterwards, when they saw how happy DS> we were, they came around. That's good they came around. While it seems "just wrong" to not invite one's parents (or brother/sister, relatives) if there's a potential they would be disruptive I'd probably not invite either. (We're not doing an episode of Jerry Springer!) DS> So, at the wedding, I was so nervous (I had never been married DS> before), that I put her engagement ring, her wedding ring, and my DS> wedding ring, all on her finger. I was about to blurt out "Where DS> the Hell is the other one??!!". The Good Lord is so Wise...the DS> preacher calmly said "You're not supposed to put all the rings on DS> her finger!!". I was still so nervous, that I nearly said "With DS> this ring, I thee, bed". That would've gone over like a lead DS> balloon...and my name would've been "mud" or something worse. :P That would have ended up on a Top Ten Blooper on YouTube!! DS> But, when I sang "The Vows Go Unbroken" by the late Kenny DS> Rogers, there wasn't a dry eye in the house. Afterwards, her Dad DS> asked if he could get "one last kiss". I said "She may be my DS> wife, but first and foremost, she is your daughter". Good reply! DS> Back to the wedding, we were trying to change out of our DS> wedding attire (a photo is at http://www.wx4qz.net/jan.htm), and DS> were having some trouble doing so. Our best man knocked on the DS> door, and asked "What are you doing in there??". I wish I had had DS> my wits about me, as I would've replied "Playing Strip Poker -- DS> you want to join us??!!". All depends on - uh, nevermind! ....Thanks for sharing! :) ¯ BarryMartin3@ ® ¯ @MyMetronet.NET ® .... Think and wonder, wonder and think. Dr. Seuss --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .