Subj : Re: FiberOptic semi-follow-up To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Jul 31 2020 17:11:54 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Jul-2020 08:41 <=- NB>> But yes, I know what you mean about typing things out can get the NB>> brain working... and I'm used to being used as a sounding board even NB>> for things I have no clue about.... :) BM> As I mentioned some time before, sometimes the act of me explaining BM> (verbally or typing) the situation/prject forces me to think BM> differently: I have to describe something the other person has little BM> to no clue about. And even if they do know a little bit the explaining BM> at their level requires a thinking at a different level to create the BM> explanation. So actually a compliment to person being the BM> soundingboard by the original person: the belief is soundingboard BM> person can be brought up to speed on the subject quickly and provide BM> input. ;) Or even if there isn't any actual input, the rethinking on your part might give some input anyway... ;) BM>> And I had sort of found out from the second technician (the one who BM>> only had to install the router but his work ticket said a full install) BM>> they only have five hours of training. Sort of makes sense: for that BM>> particular job "all" they do is string the fiber optic drop from the BM>> pole to the house, plug the fiber optic drop in to the box at the pole BM>> and the box on the side of the house, run another cable inside, BM>> connect that to another box inside... Maybe the first tech had to go BM>> to the rest room at this point and missed the part about the router, or BM>> with a single computer it works but multiple like I have it needs that BM>> router. NB>> And maybe there were a lot of picky specifics that were only in the NB>> written handouts, and not part of the actual lectures... or they were NB>> mostly videos, and the techs tended to zone out... ;) BM> Possible! Classroom troubleshooting scenarios are somewhat difficult BM> to create, though mine with a disconnecting Ethernet line seems easy BM> enough. I'm not coming up with an easy way to forget about an entire BM> device (the Router). Oh well, it's running quite nicely now. :) And BM> the bill was adjusted to start from the Friday it properly connected BM> not the previous Monday of the installation. Good that it is properly running now... and that they gave you a credit for the time it wasn't quite... :) BM>> Not putting them down but there's a lot of details one learns even as BM>> a hobbyist for over fifty years as opposed to a five hour classroom BM>> session. ...Even if a fifty hour class. Basically the three of us BM>> needed each other and worked together to get it done. NB>> And as you say, your setup was probably not the standard one, with NB>> your multitude of computers, as opposed to just the one that many NB>> people have.... ;) BM> I suppose, Was thinking a lot of people might not have a BM> stuck-in-one-place computer but a lot of laptops, tablets. and other BM> wireless devices. ...Which probably would have connected to the BM> originally-installed gateway device! Thanks! You just explained why BM> the first technician wouldn't have thought it odd not to install a BM> Router! Just a slightly different perspective... ;) BM>>> Next step is to check if my fix gave me high-speed Internet! NB>>> And had it...? BM>> Yup! Ky gave me a test site: have 200 Mbps symetrical service. The BM>> test showed 204 Mbps d/l and around 150 Mbps u/l. With symmetrical the BM>> latter should also be in the 200 range but not going to whine about BM>> that: I could have easily screwed up the test as one isn't supposed to BM>> be running other stuff while the test is being conducted. With DSL I BM>> could see when Pandora was updating the music as there was a slight BM>> slowdown with the test charting. NB>> Then I guess it's been worth it to upgrade to fiber... ;) BM> In the interim I had uploaded a 'ton' of pictures -- with DSL would BM> have taken about 15-20 minutes; fiber optic took maybe two. (I should BM> say the DSL service available to me was either 7 or 10 Mbps d/l and BM> something like 870 Kbps u/l. Ther are faster DSL services but I can't BM> get them.) Definitely worth it for you then.... ;) ttyl neb .... *IT IS* documented, look under "For Internal Use Only." --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .