Subj : Re: newspaper was: moving or To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Jul 24 2020 17:50:56 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Jul-2020 08:32 <=- NB>>> Nah.... More likely, he figured he'd given more than enough time... NB>>> maybe even twice how long he'd needed... ;) Not a clue what newbies NB>>> would need... ;) BM>> And one of the problems with manuals and menus is the person/s BM>> creating them already know the answers! Like "of course the shut down BM>> the computer it's under 'Start'! NB>> Exactly... Another good reason as far I am concerned to stay with the NB>> known and not be quick to upgrade or change... in Dos, the most I need NB>> do (and that isn't even critical) is to logoff before I turn off the NB>> switch... nothing that the computer needs do to shut down cleanly.... BM> Right. Always good practice to logoff/shutdown properly. Not always BM> possible: power failure or lockup, but when possible the few extra BM> seconds is worthwhile. An added benefit is that doing it 'properly' will show if you were shelled out and forgot about it... dumps you back... ;) NB>>>> Some people would need the help... hard enough to figure out where NB>>>> the power key is on some things... ;) And sometimes things aren't NB>>>> marked clearly, either by word or by symbol... BM>>> "On/Off", "1,0", that symbol with the O with the hole at the top and BM>>> the line coming in from the top. Or as in the case with my monitor BM>>> none of the buttons are identified yet only one turns it on. NB>>> My point exactly... "On/off" is the only one that should be obvious to NB>>> anyone... and even that confuses some... ;) BM>> See my 'stop under start'?! NB>> Well, yeah... that's Windows, and Windows is confusing by definition.. BM> I can see through but can't go through (without damage). ...Oh, BM> that's lower-cased windows. ...Let's see, that upper-cased Windows -- BM> I know what I want but can't get to it?! Sounds about right... ;) NB>>> I think it was a toggle (worked either direction) on the one bbs I NB>>> was thinking about... but it could well be different from one software NB>>> to another.... BM>> IMO ideally would be a toggle: the user could simply hit the same key BM>> to undo the action. ...So if you ever come across "BarryMail" or BM>> BarryReader" you'll know exactly what to do! (Send a nastygram 'cause BM>> that's the only part that works right!!!) NB>> Fortunately there are other working softwares out there already... ;) BM> Whew! Good, 'cause my version would be rather utilitarian-looking and BM> borrowing a lot of others' code. And besides, you'd have to get past a lot of But Firsts to get around to working on it.... ;) BM>> I'm not in disagreement as it would help to reduce spreading BM>> of the coronavirus, just seeing how it could be enforced. EU yes: each BM>> country is sort of like a U.S. state but independent so can make their BM>> own regulations. U.S. states are independent but united; no border BM>> stations. (Sloppy phrasings.) NB>> Yeah... I'm not sure how it's supposed to be enforced, either... NB>> Maybe just the threat of needing to be quarantined for 2 weeks is NB>> meant to deter thoughts of coming yet... Or it's expected to be NB>> voluntarily followed.... I know a friend of mine from the Pond was NB>> saying that she'd not be able to come to the annual meeting since her NB>> daughter was flying in from San Diego the day before and needed to NB>> quarantine for two weeks... and maybe the officials at the airports NB>> can enforce it...? BM> My thinking is the various airport authorities could enforce -- BM> probably more a choice of not allowed to disembark from the plane or BM> being detained/quarantined as opposed to not being allowed to board BM> (though should be advised of what will probably occur on the other BM> end). I think I heard something about needing to provide destination and tracking info, so maybe a quarantine in place at wherever one is staying or whoever's place one is staying with...? BM> ...I don't know: something we're not used to at all here in the BM> U.S. At this point no plans on flying anywhere much less taking longer BM> trips, so not paying attention to details but sort of keeping an eye on BM> things to keep aware. Yeah, I hear you.... and lots of things we're not at all used to here going on now.... ttyl neb .... I try - in fact, most people tell me I am very trying. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .