Subj : Resend Update on HyV To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Tue Jun 30 2020 08:38:00 Hi Nancy! BM> Yes, at this point I'm semi-avoiding crowds, partially as don't need BM> to go to a crowded store, etc., probably mostly as don't need to. LIS BM> some time back I have this feeling COVID-19 will return because people BM> in general are being sloppy and not following healthy guidelines. NB> States where things opened too fast and people were being sloppy NB> are indeed having spikes again in their Covid counts.... So far NB> NY is staying the course, and almost fully reopened again.... but NB> there is a fairly good compliance with the safety guidelines that NB> accompany each phase of the openings... Some of it might be NB> overkill, and there is some laxity in total implementation, but NB> overall, most are being careful for themselves and for others' NB> sakes... :) Good! There have been slight spikes regionally -- zero deaths in Iowa reported over the weekend and then three reported yesterday (Monday) -- possibly the weekend had something to do with the numbers reporting? And bet there will be a spike in Rock Island County (IL) as they opened a drive-through COVID-19 test clinic yesterday -- where up to 500 people can be tested er day; those people might not have been tested otherwise and I'd bet a few are going to test positive, so spike! Also what I consider to be a flaw in the graphing -- and pretty sure I've mentioned this one previously. Locally Scott County (IA) and Rock Island County (IL) -- physcially located across the River from each other -- are reporting the highest number of cases on the county counts graphs. Yeah, we're also the two most populus counties in the region, so of course we're going to have the highest counts. Not trying to minimize the report but seems the report should or there should be a second report displaying percentage: cases to overall population. OTOH seeing that that high number might help people in Scott and Rock Island Counties be more cautious and so be more inclined to continue with social distancing and other saftey procedures instead of slacking off because they see a low number. BM> Hopefully I'm all wet in that assumption, though at this point I'd BM> rather be thought as an eccentric Howard Hughes-like germaphobe. NB> I don't go quite that far, but we do follow the guidelines pretty NB> much.... :) Right. I'm more for the no-touch than the cover with mask, though LISB4 if a mask is oreferred/requied I'll put mine on without whining. Well, I have joked it messes up my beard! NB>>>> Each state (and region, etc) seems to be making up their own rules as NB>>>> to what happens when... BM>>> Right. LIS I was surprised at some of the allowed to re-open options BM>>> here in Scott County when we're still 'closed'. NB>>> Maybe you got opened up a little when you weren't noticing...? BM>> Quite possible. Things and guidelines are changing rapidly. NB>> As long as there is attention paid to whether or not the covid NB>> starts spiking again with the openings.... BM> Iowa seems to be monitoring very closely. The Governor has BM> discontinued daily press briefings, at least for now, because the BM> health issues have calmed down, at least for now. NB> I don't know if our governor is still doing the daily NB> briefings... the news doesn't seem to carry it as much anyway... NB> :) Governor Cuomo does seem to be on the local news a lot, though that doesn't indicate what kind of a briefing it was. Probably before the coronavirus 99% of government briefings weren't broadcast. BM>> wasn't needing candy this week (surprise! ) so wasn't paying close BM>> attention. NB>> You'll notice when there's need... ;) BM> Y'think?! :) The candy is more of an occasionally treat, though BM> don't really need an occasion to be treated! This week with BM> Father's Day was expecting and did have a cake (about half was brought BM> home and still some left), so the candy became the cake. Plus made BM> brownies earlier in the week -- no real need for candy! NB> Pretty well set for sweets, true... :) If there was a sale, or NB> you had a coupon, that might push the candy higher on the list, NB> but for now not so needed.... :) Yes: I'm pretty much on the outlook for a decent sale, and the longer it stores the better. Back to candy more specifically, pretty good at the storage, sufficient room in the cabinet in the basement where cool. ....Was getting some crackers "from the store in the basement" (yes, bought on sale, didn't need when bought but not on sale lately) and saw a box of candy from my Vienna trip last summer. Tempting! NB>>>> A lot of what we are doing is just a more stringent form of what we NB>>>> probably would normally be doing... :) BM>>> True. If know someone is sick probably would want to keep them at a BM>>> distance almost naturally. And not like places aren't cleaned, just BM>>> now being more paid attention to the act of cleaning and the detail. NB>>> Yup, right now our consciousness of things is heightened because of NB>>> the crisis... and extra care is being taken as well... :) BM>> Right, which makes sense. Overall self-protection, or at least for BM>> most of us, so natural distancing to keep the stranger at a distance, BM>> but that conflicts with our social nature of closeness. NB>> Today at church someone I regularly would exchange hugs with NB>> decided he was ready for hugging again... after a quick think, I NB>> decided I was too... it's been too long without hugs.... ;) BM> The hug does a lot of good! As long as both healthy and agree to it. NB> Exactly... and that factored in... both of us quite well, both NB> kinda ready to take the chance... :) I think the mentally healthier idea is to consider the people one knows as healthy unless know they are/have been recently sick. Strangers -- well "stranger danger" applies! BM>> As for cleanliness, before I never considered wiping a cart's handle BM>> before. Did glance to check if the cart was reasonably clean; now: BM>> squirt - wipe. NB>> Probably still a safer alternative... I'm getting a little more lax NB>> on that again... but the stores have been good about wiping them down NB>> regularly anyway now... BM> Yes, there is a lot of advertising on stores, restaurants, shops, BM> etc., taking extra measures to clean. As I mentioned in other BM> messages, I generally take a cart from the cart corral in the parking BM> lot so I am pretty sure those have not been cleaned. Did go to Lowes a BM> couple weeks ago for a few items; cart from inside, probably cleaned BM> (I'm remember seeing a sign), but did a quick wipe anyway. 2› worth of BM> hand sanitizer now might save me a bunch of grief later! NB> Doesn't hurt to be a little extra cautious... :) Probably NB> wouldn't be an issue if one didn't do it, but doesn't hurt to do NB> either... :) Right. The probability of an infected cart is very low, just IMO I don't want to engange that chance, especially when so easy just to squirt and wipe with a bit of cleaner. I haven't seen anyone else doing the same with the outside carts; have seen customers wiping their cart when they obtain inside. And not the customers aren't taking that kind of precaution, I'm just not there at the right time to observe. ¯ ® ¯ BarryMartin3@ ® ¯ @MyMetronet.NET ® ¯ ® ¯ (Humans know what ® ¯ to remove.) ® .... 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