Subj : Re: Resend Isolation Dia To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Jun 26 2020 17:07:16 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 18-Jun-2020 12:34 <=- NB>> Interesting.... all the degree signs in this message turned into NB>> 'o-with-umlaut' whether in old quoted sections (including mine) or in NB>> your new reply bits... and stayed so when put into my editor for my NB>> reply... I also noticed that the fraction you used (in describing the NB>> shorting plug) didn't translate either... And all your reply messages NB>> to the end of this packet had remapped the double arrowheads you use NB>> around your signature section (to - and r)... it was fine before this NB>> message, and the last returned for the message you entered later NB>> warning that you might not be here on Monday... BM> Hmmm: nothing was changed on this end. I did notice in one of my BM> quote-backs a day or two ago (possible Daryl) the mis-translation of a BM> high-ASCII character. Probably just a fluke-y thing... hasn't happened since, and within the further reply sections of this message, they map properly again with no problem... I think Daryl had replied to this same message, but got to it earlier than I did... BM>>> Bleah for the middle of May! We had a 29” freeze yesterday morning BM> That came through as o-umlaut for the degree symbol, ø <== superscript BM> circle. Yup, and worked fine afterward.... :) NB>>> I don't think we got nearly as much rain, then or even since... I NB>>> only saw heavy rain one day... We did get those awfully hot days NB>>> beginning of last week... yesterday was barely 60” with the low into NB>>> the 40s, the house ended up cooling more than I wanted it to....! By NB>>> the end of the week we'll be in the 70s, one day's supposed to be 83”, NB>>> I forget which, but then back to the 70s, which is pleasant and NB>>> properly seasonable... :) BM>> Last Monday the roofers were here to replace due to the hail-damage. BM>> I saw the official temperature at 92” but the thermometer here at the BM>> house said 99” and general it's pretty accurate compared to the TV BM>> reporting maps: the house is more or less centered between the NWS at BM>> the larger airport in Moline (IL) and the municipal one in Davenport BM>> (IA) -- each is less than ten miles. NB>> Even the 92ø is too hot... especially for roofing.... BM> Yours came through correctly: 92 followed by the degree symbol. Yes, I see that.... :) BM> It's officially 83ø outside currently and the neighbour a few houses BM> down is having their roof replaced. Yesterday two neighbours the BM> block behind us were having their roofs replaced. ...May not be the BM> high but did get to at least 82ø yesterday. Today supposed to get to BM> 90ø. (degree symbol still working, I see) I guess one shouldn't be too unhappy about the heat... it is summer now, after all... BM>> Yes, the mail tossers will sometimes do 'strange' things to older BM>> messages. May have been uploaded on one system but a new system will BM>> see them as new so upload them again: "they look new to me!". NB>> I don't think they'd ever gone out from Daryl's system... I'd not seen NB>> them anywhere before (at least the ones that went out into Fidonet NB>> echoes intermittently), so they weren't dupes from earlier... just NB>> ones he'd written weeks before that hadn't gone out... BM> Probably. I don't recall if he had messages to go out before his BM> system had problems. Do recall he was able to download QWKs and reply BM> to them but had a bad command line and the REP portion wasn't working. And I think those REPs stacked up.... ;) BM>> Possibly! I don't really remember directly but the family BM>> stories of how I got really confused and Dad had to 'de-programme' BM>> from the New Math and went back to the Old Math with modifications to BM>> semi-understand the New Math teachings. I rely a little too much on a BM>> calculator, though can usually tell when I've entered an incorrect BM>> number, and do do some simple math on paper. NB>> I try to make a practice of not using the calculator, mostly... using NB>> more for checking later... or for very complicated proceedings... BM> Like "5 + 8". LISB4, there's some sort of under-flowing math BM> processing going on so I usually know when a number has been BM> mis-entered -- into the calculator or to the journal. Yup, it helps if the brain is kinda running a sanity check while one is doing the calculating, in whichever form... :) BM>> And do do sometimes the "Reverse Polish Notation" math: $2.99 + $5.99 BM>> is $3 + $6, so $9 and then take off the two cents: $8.98! NB>> That's a good trick for doing mental math... works great.... :) BM> Yup! Even when don't need the detail of the exact cents (.98 in the BM> earlier example) know the answer is going to be a hare less than $9, BM> so if for whatever reason coming up with ten or eight something's BM> wrong. Yup. :) NB>>> She probably wouldn't be needing much help until she gets farther NB>>> along anyway.... and I suspect turning school into play would be NB>>> more her style as well.. :) BM>> Yes. Here school is 'over' as far as the official school year is BM>> concerned. Her parents (mother mainly) are glad as less stuff that BM>> has to be done that day. Still continuing learning, just at a more BM>> casual pace as opposed to a structured one. NB>> She does tend to absorb learning along the way nicely... ;) BM> Appears so. :) I haven't heard of any issues other than the one like BM> your son had: I know the answer, you know I know the answer, so why BM> waste time. Or not finishing lesson plans because wants a break to do BM> something else for a while. She doesn't quite realize the need to BM> finish this 'job' before starting the next. Both essentially the same BM> issue. Learning how to learn and how to be taught... ;) BM>> As for next school year -- presuming they're going back to the BM>> classroom but not 100% certain. Have heard snippets of the various BM>> local school boards are considering various options, asking for BM>> parental input on what they would like to do, what worked and didn't BM>> work last session (during COVID-19), etc. NB>> There's still a lot of things up in the air, since things really NB>> aren't known about how things really are tracking... BM> Yes, and the plan could be to open and some event occur effecting BM> last-minute changes. ...At this point I'd be thinking "it's back to BM> school" but also make considerations for home-schooling. One thing we've all learned... be ready with contingency plans... ;) BM>>> they were locked. ...A certain section of the door trim was hollowed BM>>> and a push-button switch was hidden: push the trim in the right place BM>>> and would activate an electric door latch. NB>>> That was convenient... :) And less than readily obvious... :) BM>> Yes. Also had a small outlet -- was literally a two-prong outlet but BM>> the snap-in front-panel size, about 3/8" x 1ª" that had a shorting BM>> plug plugged in to it. (Sort of hidden.) Remove the plug, no BM>> electricity to the door latches even if pressed the molding to activate BM>> the hidden switch. (The house has been sold a few times -- bet the BM>> current owners have no idea of those locks, nor the older 'sneaky' BM>> alarms.) NB>> Depends on whether or not the info was passed along with the keys NB>> to the house.... ;) BM> I'm thinking not. Know when I was still living there my Mother wanted BM> a speaker in the back yard -- don't recall why it wasn't a simple BM> battery-powered radio, but a wired speaker into the speaker system BM> throughout the house. Wasn't loud enough outside so the speaker BM> cabinet had a small amplifier inside -- so two speaker leads and two BM> more for the power to the amp. Connector on the outside of the house. BM> Might have been figured out as long as the speaker hadn't been BM> discarded, but then also needed to have an audio feed from the main BM> radio/amplifier in the Den, and part of that system was moved to the BM> new house. So fewer clues for the new owners... or for subsequent ones.... :) NB>>>> Technology marches on, leaving obsolescence in its wake... NB>>>> (I quote a tagline, I think....) BM>>> Or would make a good one! NB>>> I'll look for it... ;) [Edited to add: found it, and see that NB>>> the spelling needs correcting... I'll take care of that later... ] BM>> Sounds like a But First to me! And this also serves as a subtle BM>> reminder if you haven't gotten around to it yet. :) NB>> I don't remember now if I did or not... ;) BM> As always if not sooner then later! As always... ;) BM>> - r BM>> - Barry_Martin_3@ r BM>> - @Q.COM r BM>> - r NB>> Leaving so that you can see the re-map of your usual characters... BM> Legible enough for humans to read still. See how it comes out with BM> this upload -- LIS appears your degree symbol came through correctly. BM> Plus I'll need to update that address as it's the DSL one. No 'port BM> forwarding' as with telephone numbers! BM> ¯ ® BM> ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® BM> ¯ @Q.COM ® BM> ¯ ® Worked fine, as you can see.... :) ttyl neb .... Manuals come out, after all possible keystrokes fail. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .