Subj : Resend Re: Miss.RvrDamBreach-Davenpt To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Thu Jun 11 2020 18:46:06 Ok, since you confirmed that you never got these, I'm re-sending in groups of 5... Trying to update would probably be way more effort than just this exercise in retrieving and resending... Today's is the group of 5 from June 1st... :) Original Date: 01 Jun 20 13:34:18 Subj: Re: Miss.RvrDamBreach-Davenpt -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-May-2020 09:15 <=- Sigh.... I AM slipping.... 2 weeks behind now...! NB>>>> Just curious sorts like us tend to wonder about it... ;) BM>>> More than likely. Similar for a lot of things: just happens. Up BM>>> until a few messages ago I didn't know the size of a HESCO barrier: was BM>>> just a big box filled with sand by a bulldozer and a lot more efficient BM>>> than sandbags. NB>>> And generally that would be sufficient to know... until we start NB>>> getting curious... ;) BM>> True: Black Box Concepts getting smaller and smaller. NB>> To some extent... ;) BM> They do get smaller: I just haven't figured out how they get all of BM> them to fit in that first box! ...I think that's another Black Box BM> line of discovery!! Probably... BM>> Possible; I haven't seen or heard anything to indicate one way or the BM>> other - they just magically appear. Have seen news coverage of the BM>> devices being filled with sand and later "will be removed" but nothing BM>> to indicate anything more - including what is done with the sand fill. NB>> They probably figure that people aren't interested in the NB>> details... and, in most cases, they probably are right... ;) NB>> Now, if someone should raise the question in a budget hearing as to NB>> which is more cost effective, perhaps some further details would NB>> emerge... ;) BM> There are quite a few people interested in environmental issues around BM> here would seem it would have come up. Just have to find out some BM> day. Maybe it has already but you weren't enough interested at the time...? ;) NB>>> We aren't all that far from the Genesee River, but it's both a lot NB>>> smaller than the Mississippi and, as it goes through the city, it's NB>>> mostly in various depths of a ravine... And our neighborhood is NB>>> somewhat elevated as well, and our house is on a slight elevation of NB>>> our street as well... No worries here... ;) BM>> That's good! NB>> Most area flooding is either at the lakeshore or low-lying areas near NB>> some of the creeks, and mostly a result of high winds and/or heavy NB>> rain... BM> We've found the Mississippi almost always floods due to rain; detail BM> is almost never if just rains South of here. (Ooo! I'm in trouble BM> now!!) During very high waters they will ban pleasure boats on the BM> River because too dangerous (hit debris/hit by debris, and the water BM> is flowing too rapidly) plus if travelling too fast will create waves BM> which weaken sandbag walls and sometimes splash over barricades. All very sensible... :) At the shores of Lake Ontario, when the water is high, there's similar restrictions/prohibitions against speed, lest the created waves wash away even more shoreline.... NB>>> Makes sense... are the re-opening counties doing ok...? BM>> I haven't heard any negatives but might be a little too early BM>> considering incubation period. The medical director for Rock Island BM>> County (IL) - across the River from us - is concerned with reopening BM>> too soon in both Iowa and Illinois, causing a resurgence. Personally I BM>> agree with him, as do a lot of people, though I can see the need to BM>> reopen businesses to get people their paychecks. NB>> A lot depends on how willing people are to still keep their distance NB>> and practice the safety measures... if there's too much> crowding, NB>> things could easily resurge.... BM> True: nice to be be in a crowd: amplifies the concert experience, BM> camaraderie in a bar, the overall social experience, etc., but the BM> downside is the easier transmission of disease -- any disease, not BM> just COVID-19. Yup, upsides and downsides to crowds... some diseases are more easily spread than others, of course... Even for bars and concerts, I'd just as soon not be in too much of a crowd, though... ;) BM> ...Saw a news item where a restaurant re-opened and instead of blocking BM> off every other booth with tape they dressed up mannequins and blow-up BM> dolls and sat and posed them at the not-to-be-occupied tables. (Some BM> of the blow-up ones did look a little 'suspicious' and spooky!) Clever BM> idea to make the restaurant look less empty; wonder how many live BM> patrons took photos/selfies with the mannequins? People being as they are, I'd guess it at least occurred to many of them... and probably some did follow through... ;) NB>>> As far as I know, nothing's really been reopened here yet... still on NB>>> PAUSE until at least May 15... and I guess he's looking at the stats NB>>> for various regions to determing who's "ready" to reopen.... BM>> IMO a smart move, though probably unpopular in general. People want BM>> to get back to the regular lives, just some are impatient to do so, IMO BM>> risking themselves and others who are waiting. NB>> And now we are actually starting to reopen... our region met the NB>> criteria for phase one reopening, so the first wave of non-essential NB>> businesses is opening... non-essential retail is only curbside, though, NB>> not sure about getting shoes or clothes that way... Phase two NB>> will let them open naturally.... BM> Barber shops/salons, gyms, and another category or two could do BM> restricted openings starting yesterday (May 16). Where I go for a BM> haircut wasn't opening until today (Sunday), probably more for BM> scheduling purposes and maybe the company can write off all of last BM> week as a loss. Was a little surprised of the openings here as we're BM> one of the twenty-two counties still highly restricted in Iowa, mainly BM> because we didn't start getting cases until later. Sounds like your governor reconsidered about whether to open your counties, then... and it really does show how differently various things are viewed from state to state.... Those are in a much later category for us... barber shops etc aren't open yet, and I think we've entered phase 2.... BM> Currently raining + fog: not going to be getting any outside work done BM> today! Ground is saturated from the rain last week; sump pump started BM> doing it's thing yesterday. Autumm investigated the drain and then BM> ran off as there was some bugs she didn't like -- normally she likes BM> bugs: she even put five 'roly polies' in a plastic doll bed, added a BM> small cap-like thing with water for them.... Maybe those bugs she didn't like looked particularly ugly/scary and not at all cute.... BM>>>> the Burning Bush doesn't look too good: several of the trunk branches NB> BM>>> Haven't done anything directly with the Burning Bush but looks to be BM>>> dead. Not sure what the other shrub/bush is but the leaves look to be BM>>> different from what I remember the Burning Bush having, but could be BM>>> because has recently budded and not fully leafed out. Need to do BM>>> other yard work before cutting out the dead branches. NB>>> You'll get to it soon enough... ;) BM>> Yup. Was doing some yard cleanup yesterday and with it greening up BM>> doesn't look as bad. Still needs to be done of course. But First! NB>> A bit at a time... ;) BM> And today's not it's time! Has it happened yet....? ;) ttyl neb .... We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Common Sense? --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .