Subj : Resend Covid-19 was: To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Thu Jun 18 2020 12:34:00 Hi Nancy! BM>> celebrations. The other advantage is there has been time to prepare: BM>> not like "sorry Charlie, no graduation/birthday/etc. event next week". BM>> I'm thinking maybe the ability to plan for/create an alternative BM>> festivity helps: "I can do something". NB>> That could help... :) And knowing that it isn't just them, but NB>> everybody in their class, all around the world, could also be a NB>> little bit of a, well not exactly a comfort, but at least a NB>> mitigating factor... BM> Yes; sort of 'sharing the misery' makes one feel better, at least not BM> alone in the situation. Local TV station did have six or seven hours BM> of programming on their primary channel (6.1) last Saturday late BM> morning and pretty much all afternoon dedicating an hour each for BM> various Iowa-side high schools graduations. NB> That was a nice gesture... :) Here, the governor decreed that NB> groups of up to 150 people could gather (with proper distancing NB> and masks etc) for in-person graduations... obviously it would NB> mean that larger classes would have to break into much smaller NB> groups, but it still would be closer to normal... :) Yes, at least a degree of the public acknowledgement was able to be done. BM> (The studio is on this side; I didn't see/hear where the two BM> Illinois-side stations were doing anything similar.) NB> You'd almost have to have been channel-surfing to find out, NB> probably... Probably, and since I don't do that much channel surfing that cuts my chances even more. I don't recall seeing announcements during commercials at night on the other stations (fast forward through the commercials, but still aware of the content). BM>>> For me it's more not open yet so can't do it, whatever the 'it' is. I BM>>> agree with the closures so no reason to fight it. I'm probably not BM>>> going to rush out as the various "its" re-open: give time for them to BM>>> settle into the new routine, plus others will be rushing out and I BM>>> wasn't a crowd person before. NB>>> Neither am I... crowds are mostly something to avoid for me, too.. BM>> I'm also generally not a crowd-person: too noisy, sometimes too BM>> uncontrolled. OTOH some things just aren't right without an audience BM>> or gathering. NB>> Well enough controlled and not too noisy, yes, I'd agree... NB>> There's one "it" reopening that I will be in the forefront for, and NB>> that's my massage, whenever my therapist gets the green light... NB>> She's put me at the top of her list... It almost happened Saturday, NB>> but then she found out she couldn't reopen yet, after all... BM> Soooo close! Good news is she put you at the top of her list: BM> probably means a combination of needing the care more urgently but also BM> probably a good/nice client. :) NB> At this point, she's a friend, too... but mostly it's that she NB> does know how urgent my need is... And now, finally, it has NB> opened, and I had my first rub in three months Saturday, with NB> another scheduled for this Saturday... I normally have them NB> weekly, to keep pain under control... Glad that is finally able to done! As an isolated event between the two of you probably would have been perfectly healthy, just almost impossible to make rulings to allow this site to open and another not to, even though essentially the same, so everyone of a category lumped together. (Sloppy example: thinking Shop A has no kids at home but Shop B does so the possibility of bringing home and therefore spreading the coronavirus.) NB>> Well, there is the 'keep learning' aspect, and also the 'if it NB>> works why change' part.... :) BM> Agree to both. :) One gets stale without learning new things, though BM> sometimes less frustrating to stick with the old. I'd hate to have a BM> tube-type computer -- I 'complain' about the noise from the air BM> conditioner -- imagine the constant clacking of the relays!! NB> Some things there is good reason to update... All that heat from the vacuum tubes would make it cozy-warm in winter! As far as the window air conditioner, it's noisy only because it's a few feet from where I sit. BM>> Yes - my guess is the hoarders have decided they have plenty BM>> squirreled away, the supply may be low but not critical. As I've BM>> mentioned, the toilet paper and paper towels section at Hy-Vee is BM>> reasonably well-stocked. Yes, some holes and almost-empties; quite BM>> sure the limit of one has helped but also thinking lessening of the BM>> hoarding. NB>> Paper goods have pretty much gone back to normal, though not quite NB>> fully stocked everywhere... still a lot of holes in the cleaning NB>> supplies and things like gloves and sanitizers... BM> Yes. During yesterday's shopping sort of noticed low stock in general BM> cleaning supplies; paper goods filling back up but still not to normal BM> levels. (Just realized I didn't notice any 'limit of one' signs at BM> toilet paper/paper towels. Didn't need so just zipped by following the BM> one-way aisles signage.) NB> Little by little returning to normal... ;) Yes, along with a combination of getting accustomed to the new social rules. BM> They did have several grab-basket displays of hand sanitizer: noticed BM> by Pharmacy and at the checkouts. Didn't recognize the brand; quite a BM> few of the local and regional mini-breweries temporarily coverted to BM> producing hand sanitizer so could have been one of them. NB> I've heard of that happening other places as well... Shouldn't be NB> running out of sanitiser now.... ;) Probably not! LIS I have a small pocket-sized bottle I carry with me when I go out; refill from the larger containers which are not nearly as convenient to carry. BM>> Spotty holes in tuna fish, pizza and frozen foods -- might be due to a BM>> supply issue or could also be people are eating at home: tuna BM>> casserole, pizza, frozen meals. NB>> Or that might be a form of hoarding, too... shelf-stable or frozen, NB>> as long as one has room to stock, one can do some stockpiling... I NB>> have twice now bought a Family Pack (10 cans) of tuna fish to donate NB>> at church to a local food pantry that had asked for help.... but at NB>> our store, there seems to be a pretty good supply of tunafish... :) BM> Makes sense. A few people grabbing a 10-pack package could create a BM> few large holes rather quickly! NB> At one point there was a limit 3 sign on the individual tuna NB> cans... made sense to get the Family Pack instead for the food NB> pantry... ;) True: usually the Family Pack is four or six cans. And frequently cheaper per can. BM> The Frozen section at the store looked a little sparse, but then BM> they're in progress of moving merchandise from the old coolers to the BM> new. Pizzas will be on my left instead of my right following my usual BM> travel direction (pre-one-way aisles). NB> Yup, the remodel could be the major factor there, then... ;) If NB> I were stocking there, I'd probably let stock dwindle some so NB> that there would be fewer items that needed to be shifted to the NB> new coolers... Right: the less to move the easier and faster it is. A while back was chatting with the 'chips guy' -- he is from Frito-Lay and stocks daily. Did mention he, an assistant and probably his boss would be doing the move -- he wasn't looking forward to it. BM>> Some things just aren't worth a fight. I haven't observed anyone BM>> getting in trouble (by whatever degree from The Look to physical) by BM>> going the wrong way. Most are following the directional signage, some BM>> have simply overlooked it. NB>> I think it was in BJs recently, there was an older woman, obviously NB>> distressed enough that she had to wear a mask to be out shopping, and NB>> pushing one of those big carts.... I think she might not have seen NB>> the floor markings for the one-way aisles, even though they are large NB>> red squares on the floor now... BM> A relatively large number of shoppers haven't noticed the directional BM> markings; some are ignoring to get to an item they need. NB> Makes me glad that Wegmans never went to the one-way aisles... A NB> friend in the Toronto area was telling about how his grocery NB> store had the one-way aisles, and they took half the cashiers off NB> the checkouts to have them stand guard to yell at anyone NB> ignoring/not seeing the arrows... very nerve-wracking....! Oh Good Grief! No, no one here yelling at customers; I haven't heard any issues with someone going the wrong way. The occasional grumbling when a customer has to go down an extra aisle over to go up the one they want. ...Or the 'longing look' when at the 'top' of the aisle and when the customer wants something about 10' from the top but they can't get to it because they'd have to go the wrong way. I'll give that 'conspiritorial' look and tone and give permission "I won't tell if you won't!". BM> I accidentally went the wrong way in an aisle getting to raisins. BM> Didn't see on my initial up-and-down wanderings. They used to be with BM> 'baking': seems flour, evaporated milk, etc., were in the section BM> before the remodel. Now in "Dried Fruits". ...At the end of my BM> shopping looking for a couple of items I didn't find initially; got BM> those but didn't find the raisins. Looked in the would have been in BM> the old baking section - not there and sort of knew they weren't but BM> couldn't remember what the new location was. Did ask, he knew moved to BM> "Dried Fruit" but couldn't remember the aisle number (everything's been BM> moved for them too!). He's reading the hanging signs and gets to the BM> listing - got my raisins! :) NB> At least you finally found them... :) And before long, NB> customers and employees alike will get used to all the new NB> locations... ;) Right. Just a matter of getting used to the new placement. The raisins were probably always part of "Dried Fruits", just not labelled as such, or I remember their location with the 'wrong' landmark (baking). ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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