Subj : Re: Resend Solar TV Batt To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Jun 19 2020 00:59:12 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Jun-2020 09:42 <=- BM>>> Apparently it's job was to be cooling a much lighter capacity BM>>> processor! NB>>> And now you know... BM>> Ah! I neglected to to check _which_ one it was approved for!! BM>> (Actually I had and my processor was listed.) NB>> Maybe they were being overly optimistic on your processor...? BM> Or it's being run inside a freezer! Don't know if you read the BM> comments between Ky and myself in the Linux Conference (think it was BM> there), but the inadequate heat sinking is a known issue and sort of BM> allowed because most people using that category of CPU are gamers and BM> upgrade the heat sink and fan anyway. ...I can see a few large holes BM> in that thinking, not by Ky but AMD. No, haven't been reading that echo... and, yes, agreed on the holes in AMD's thinking... ;) BM>>> Yes, those chips just don't like to be too warm! Didn't quite make BM>>> sense why the original hardware wasn't liking the updated software BM>>> but.... I had the metal case in stock for another project, and did my BM>>> "buy two, they're cheap!" philosophy. Actually still have a spare: BM>>> did buy two but the original project changed. NB>>> Funny how that happens, sometimes... :) But handy to have for the NB>>> project at hand.... :) BM>> If cheap enough spares are handy! NB>> True. ;) BM> No problems with heat since, and has been warmer because of it being BM> Summer and so less natural heat transfer from case to the air. That's a very good sign.... :) BM> Over-heating of the Raspberry Pi's has been a known issue for years, BM> but again depends on what one is doing with them. They were originally BM> designed for kids to learn programming on, which while a hot topic BM> doesn't get the CPU all that hot and bothered. Things took off, BM> the Pi used for all sorts of things including industrial applications BM> (!) and "the rest is history". It was just too cute (and powerful at that) to pass up... ;) BM>>>>> Yes, see what happens on a fully sunny day which would be running BM>>>>> under ideal conditions and so find out what my maximum voltage would BM>>>>> be. Lesser sunny to overcast days would have less solar output and so BM>>>>> need to tweak the solar cell's positioning to make the best of what is BM>>>>> available. NB>>>>> All seems like workable situations and all... ;) BM>>>> Yes, eventually back to that project. I haven't been down in the BM>>>> basement for a while; some stuff up here in the Computer Room, some BM>>>> Spring yard work..... NB>>>> You'll get back to it in due time... :) BM>>> Yes: when it gets to 90 and 100 outside I'l be looking for an indoor BM>>> project! NB>>> And a cool basement will be very inviting... BM>> True. I haven't been down there for anything but putting away BM>> groceries or 'going shopping'. NB>> The time will come... ;) BM> The time hasn't come - yet! But Summer is heating up now... ;) NB>>> Ice cream containers are a case in point where they did do that... NB>>> what used to be a half-gallon container is now just 3 pints... they NB>>> raised the bottom up into the container so the inside is less, but NB>>> the outside appears to be the old size... the correct weight is, of NB>>> course, on the package, but people rarely really notice that anyway... BM>> Right: more trained by size. Have noticed when the opposite happens BM>> the manufacturers loudly proclaim "smaller packaging, same amount!". BM>> They figured out how to make the box smaller so as to get more per BM>> case, or make the case smaller so more cases could be packed into the BM>> semi-trailer and cut their costs. NB>> Or get more boxes onto the shelf at the grocery store... ;) BM> Maybe the opposite: the grocers seem to be cutting down spare stock BM> (on the floor and in the back) to save costs -- what is sitting there BM> costs money. There is also something about manufacturers buying shelf BM> space for their product, so if the manufacturer can create a smaller BM> package they can either get more products (more SKUs) in the same space BM> or purchase less shelf space. I don't see where that is the opposite of what I said..... ;) NB>>> Absolutely... Sugar is now in 4-lb bags rather than 5-lb... cans NB>>> that used to be 16 oz are now 15, or even 14.5oz... BM>> And the latter has screwed up some recipes: "one small can of BM>> Evaporated Milk" -- now doesn't seem to be that small can being sold. NB>> Or the small can used to be 8 oz and now is only 6.5... but the NB>> other ingredients might have likewise shrunk, and so the NB>> proportion still not too out of line... BM> In this instance specifically is a recipe for chocolate pie which has BM> been passed down at least two generations. No size as far as ounces BM> for the evaporated milk other than "one small can", and so the rest of BM> the ingredients have not changed. It also appears the consistency and BM> flavour alters with the brand, even with the correct/original amount: BM> once years ago substituted a house brand of evaporated milk and "close BM> but not right". In that case, one needs the original (and has to hope that the formulation doesn't get changed along the line) brand, and probably some research is in order to figure out what the size of the original can was... and then one would have to buy probably a larger can, or two current small cans, and put in just the right amount.... BM> And as another barely-a-tangent (that from yesterday), Schnuck's BM> grocery store will be closing August 16th. They're pretty much always BM> busy, just the store isn't making a profit because they're essentially BM> out in the boonies from the rest. The chain's only store in Iowa, not BM> sure about Illinois in general but no other store in the general area. BM> So the problem is their supply trucks have to travel 100-200 miles just BM> to get here. My friend in COOKING that lives in Springfield Ill is still talking about his Schnuck's store, so I guess they're still there.... :) But if yours was an outlier, I guess I can see where they might find it overall unprofitable.... sadly for you.... BM> Hopefully another grocery chain will take over that property. BM> Location for us was handy to "grab a few things". Also is/was the only BM> major-sized grocery store in this part of town. Depends on what might be looking for a toe-hold... ;) Hopefully you get something good, so you can still have your handy place to go... NB>> We use sugar very rarely... so rarely, in fact, that I still have more NB>> than half a TW container into which I put a 5lb bag of sugar decades NB>> ago (perfect fit, back then)... ;) I noticed the sugar because the NB>> size change had been discussed by others in the Cooking Echo... ;) BM> Here I tend not to use sugar: my shredded wheat cereal doesn't need BM> sweetening, nor my tea. OK, iced coffee does need a little sugar. I BM> will admit to getting all my sugar from cookies (cue Cookie Monster!). Sounds like you still use more sugar than I do... BM> BM>> Hy-Vee might have decided on an all-or-none option to avoid BM>> confrontations: what is considered 'dirty', though probably more as BM>> they're trying to avoid contact when handing over someone else's bag BM>> -- who knows what it has been in contact with? While I prefer using BM>> reusable bags for the current time it's better to go with the flow. BM>> Oh, and Hy-Vee does allow reusable bags if one is packing their own, BM>> so Richard being able to use might be the reason. NB>> Wegmans still has paper bags available (5 cents each, the reusables NB>> are 99 cents), but no plastic ones... And I've seen plenty of cashiers NB>> packing other people's groceries into their brought-back reusables... BM> Either different corporate policies or state regulations. Hy-Vee is BM> still not allowing their baggers to handle the customers' reuseable BM> bags. The no plastic is state regulations... the rest I think is corporate policy... BM> And they seem rather generous with the plastic bags: sometimes BM> only a couple of items. I can see with soap -- generally don't want BM> that smell mixed with a package of meat. Might be the floppyness of BM> the plastic bag and bagging technique. They will also give me the BM> occasional paper bag - guess whatever I bought 'deserves' a paper bag BM> (is easier to bag). Plastic bags tend to be not so sturdy as the paper bags... as well as being floppier.... BM> Was sort of funny as the other week brought down BM> a paper bag to a shred event down the hill; next day I went shopping, BM> got a paper bag. Got home: "here's a replacement paper bag!". (Around BM> here paper bags are sort of a rarity.) That was convenient... ;) Before the reusables were introduced here, we'd always ask for and use double-bagged paper bags... and then reuse them until they wore out... we still managed to accumulate quite a few of those, and still have a collection of them too... ;) NB>>> Even if it was just buying up end quantities, that's an exorbitant NB>>> price for a package of M&Ms.... :) BM>> I thought so, so it was a no. Did try to make sure I wasn't BM>> misreading -- weight was about right for a single package, definately BM>> not a box. NB>> For sure a rip-off... ;) BM> IMO yes. While tasty and worth trying to find not worth 75› or BM> whatever it would have worked out to be per M&M. Highway robbery....! Maybe someday they'll be reintroduced... ttyl neb .... Law of Basic Economics: you can only spend it once. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .