Subj : Re: Resend Miss.RvrDamBre To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Wed Jun 17 2020 17:43:02 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 12-Jun-2020 09:56 <=- NB>> Ok, since you confirmed that you never got these, I'm re-sending in NB>> groups of 5... Trying to update would probably be way more effort NB>> than just this exercise in retrieving and resending... Today's NB>> is the group of 5 from June 1st... :) BM> Thanks! ...Naturally the "I wonder what happened to them" and from BM> watching my mail runs I know uploads from here occurred but there was BM> nothing to download. "Poop occurred" somewhere between us. Interestingly, it appears that the reply packets that never reached you did manage to get to Daryl, as he replied to some of the originally sent ones... NB> Original Date: 01 Jun 20 13:34:18 NB> Subj: Re: Miss.RvrDamBreach-Davenpt -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-May-2020 09:15 <=- NB> Sigh.... I AM slipping.... 2 weeks behind now...! BM> And now effectively even further! Actually, at the moment, it's more like only 5 days behind now, and likely to stay there, since there's all the messages in the queue now... so that's effectively caught up... BM>>> True: Black Box Concepts getting smaller and smaller. NB>>> To some extent... ;) BM>> They do get smaller: I just haven't figured out how they get all of BM>> them to fit in that first box! ...I think that's another Black Box BM>> line of discovery!! NB>> Probably... BM> Sometimes it's just easier to keep it packaged in that Black Box. I'm BM> pretty much for recycling, re-use, etc., but there are limitations: BM> trusting a re-used HESCO barrier against tons of river water to BM> protect millions of dollars of property may not be the smartest. Maybe BM> as a secondary/backup level: the reused barrier supporting the new BM> barrier. Overall seems safer to strain out the parts of the used BM> barrier and recycle those materials to make new. I'm thinking that it would take an expert in the use of the HESCO barriers to really make that determination... :) BM>> There are quite a few people interested in environmental issues BM>> around here would seem it would have come up. Just have to find BM>> out some day. NB>> Maybe it has already but you weren't enough interested at the NB>> time...? ;) BM> Good assessment. :) Davenport has the problem, Bettendorf BM> essentially doesn't. We pretty much install flood panels across the BM> street and a strip of land and we're done. And I'm pretty much in the BM> "I'll cooperate" mindset by putting my trash in the trash and my BM> recyclables in the appropriate bin but to go a pick up trash event, BM> sorry, no. Mostly in the "as it actually affects me" mindset, then... :) BM>> We've found the Mississippi almost always floods due to rain; detail BM>> is almost never if just rains South of here. (Ooo! I'm in trouble BM>> now!!) During very high waters they will ban pleasure boats on the BM>> River because too dangerous (hit debris/hit by debris, and the water BM>> is flowing too rapidly) plus if travelling too fast will create waves BM>> which weaken sandbag walls and sometimes splash over barricades. NB>> All very sensible... :) At the shores of Lake Ontario, when the NB>> water is high, there's similar restrictions/prohibitions against NB>> speed, lest the created waves wash away even more shoreline.... BM> Right: there were times when the river levels was right at the top of BM> the barriers (I'm talking multiple rivers and multiple locations, not BM> restricted to the Quad Cities proper): a wave from a boat could cause BM> water to splash over the barrier, starting a wear-away problem. Practical reasons for being considerate... :) NB>>> A lot depends on how willing people are to still keep their distance NB>>> and practice the safety measures... if there's too much crowding, NB>>> things could easily resurge.... BM>> True: nice to be be in a crowd: amplifies the concert experience, BM>> camaraderie in a bar, the overall social experience, etc., but the BM>> downside is the easier transmission of disease -- any disease, not BM>> just COVID-19. NB>> Yup, upsides and downsides to crowds... some diseases are more easily NB>> spread than others, of course... Even for bars and concerts, I'd just NB>> as soon not be in too much of a crowd, though... ;) BM> I'm/we've not gone out all that much - high point of general BM> socializing is grocery shopping!! Places are partially opening now, BM> usually at 50% capacity. We don't do the Bar Thing, nor eat out all BM> that much (I'm getting a bit antsy though!). We don't do the bar thing, either... :) BM> One can somewhat control social distancing at a grocery store or BM> restaurant. At a bar/party situation probably not nearly the control: BM> drunk guy/gal stumbles against..... Always a possibility, although, from memories of earlier times, I don't remember that happening all that often, at least not to me... BM>> ...Saw a news item where a restaurant re-opened and instead of blocking BM>> off every other booth with tape they dressed up mannequins and blow-up BM>> dolls and sat and posed them at the not-to-be-occupied tables. (Some BM>> of the blow-up ones did look a little 'suspicious' and spooky!) Clever BM>> idea to make the restaurant look less empty; wonder how many live BM>> patrons took photos/selfies with the mannequins? NB>> People being as they are, I'd guess it at least occurred to many of NB>> them... and probably some did follow through... ;) BM> I'll admit to thinking I might be tempted! At least take a picture of BM> the mannequin-occupied tables. Selfie or picture of the group BM> "chatting" with them is almost a natural. A lot of that would be due to the novelty of it, though... it would wear off soon enough... :) BM>> Currently raining + fog: not going to be getting any outside work done BM>> today! Ground is saturated from the rain last week; sump pump started BM>> doing it's thing yesterday. Autumm investigated the drain and then BM>> ran off as there was some bugs she didn't like -- normally she likes BM>> bugs: she even put five 'roly polies' in a plastic doll bed, added a BM>> small cap-like thing with water for them.... NB>> Maybe those bugs she didn't like looked particularly ugly/scary NB>> and not at all cute.... BM> Quite possibly. Some bugs don't have that attractiveness quality, at BM> least to humans. And she was playing with some roly-polies she found BM> in the rock garden here yesterday. (She did return them when she was BM> done.) Learning some responsibility towards the natural world.... ;) BM>>>> Haven't done anything directly with the Burning Bush but looks to be BM>>>> dead. Not sure what the other shrub/bush is but the leaves look to BM>>>> be different from what I remember the Burning Bush having, but could BM>>>> be because has recently budded and not fully leafed out. Need to do BM>>>> other yard work before cutting out the dead branches. NB>>>> You'll get to it soon enough... ;) BM>>> Yup. Was doing some yard cleanup yesterday and with it greening up BM>>> doesn't look as bad. Still needs to be done of course. But First! NB>>> A bit at a time... ;) BM>> And today's not its time! NB>> Has it happened yet....? ;) BM> Uh, no. Too, hot, too rainy, roof repair, taking care of Autumn.... BM> If the dead branches rot won't have to cut!! One thing after another..... and sometimes procrastination pays off in the end... ttyl neb .... 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