Subj : Resend Re: Miss.RvrDamBre To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Fri Jun 12 2020 09:56:00 Subject: Resend Re: Miss.RvrDamBreach-Davenpt Hi Nancy! NB> Ok, since you confirmed that you never got these, I'm re-sending NB> in groups of 5... Trying to update would probably be way more NB> effort than just this exercise in retrieving and resending... NB> Today's is the group of 5 from June 1st... :) Thanks! ...Naturally the "I wonder what happened to them" and from watching my mail runs I know uploads from here occurred but there was nothing to download. "Poop occurred" somewhere between us. NB> Original Date: 01 Jun 20 13:34:18 NB> Subj: Re: Miss.RvrDamBreach-Davenpt -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-May-2020 09:15 <=- NB> Sigh.... I AM slipping.... 2 weeks behind now...! And now effectively even further! NB>>>> Just curious sorts like us tend to wonder about it... ;) BM>>> More than likely. Similar for a lot of things: just happens. Up BM>>> until a few messages ago I didn't know the size of a HESCO barrier: was BM>>> just a big box filled with sand by a bulldozer and a lot more efficient BM>>> than sandbags. NB>>> And generally that would be sufficient to know... until we start NB>>> getting curious... ;) BM>> True: Black Box Concepts getting smaller and smaller. NB>> To some extent... ;) BM> They do get smaller: I just haven't figured out how they get all of BM> them to fit in that first box! ...I think that's another Black Box BM> line of discovery!! NB> Probably... Sometimes it's just easier to keep it packaged in that Black Box. I'm pretty much for recycling, re-use, etc., but there are limitations: trusting a re-used HESCO barrier against tons of river water to protect millions of dollars of property may not be the smartest. Maybe as a secondary/backup level: the reused barrier supporting the new barrier. Overall seems safer to strain out the parts of the used barrier and recycle those materials to make new. BM> There are quite a few people interested in environmental issues around BM> here would seem it would have come up. Just have to find out some BM> day. NB> Maybe it has already but you weren't enough interested at the NB> time...? ;) Good assessment. :) Davenport has the problem, Bettendorf essentially doesn't. We pretty much install flood panels across the street and a strip of land and we're done. And I'm pretty much in the "I'll cooperate" mindset by putting my trash in the trash and my recyclables in the appropriate bin but to go a pick up trash event, sorry, no. BM> We've found the Mississippi almost always floods due to rain; detail BM> is almost never if just rains South of here. (Ooo! I'm in trouble BM> now!!) During very high waters they will ban pleasure boats on the BM> River because too dangerous (hit debris/hit by debris, and the water BM> is flowing too rapidly) plus if travelling too fast will create waves BM> which weaken sandbag walls and sometimes splash over barricades. NB> All very sensible... :) At the shores of Lake Ontario, when the NB> water is high, there's similar restrictions/prohibitions against NB> speed, lest the created waves wash away even more shoreline.... Right: there were times when the river levels was right at the top of the barriers (I'm talking multiple rivers and multiple locactions. not restricted to the Quad Cities proper): a wave from a boat could cause water to splash over the barrier, starting a wear-away problem. NB>>> Makes sense... are the re-opening counties doing ok...? BM>> I haven't heard any negatives but might be a little too early BM>> considering incubation period. The medical director for Rock Island BM>> County (IL) - across the River from us - is concerned with reopening BM>> too soon in both Iowa and Illinois, causing a resurgence. Personally I BM>> agree with him, as do a lot of people, though I can see the need to BM>> reopen businesses to get people their paychecks. NB>> A lot depends on how willing people are to still keep their distance NB>> and practice the safety measures... if there's too much> crowding, NB>> things could easily resurge.... BM> True: nice to be be in a crowd: amplifies the concert experience, BM> camaraderie in a bar, the overall social experience, etc., but the BM> downside is the easier transmission of disease -- any disease, not BM> just COVID-19. NB> Yup, upsides and downsides to crowds... some diseases are more NB> easily spread than others, of course... Even for bars and NB> concerts, I'd just as soon not be in too much of a crowd, NB> though... ;) I'm/we've not gone out all that much - high point of general socializing is grocery shopping!! Places are partially opening now, usually at 50% capacity. We don't do the Bar Thing, nor eat out all that much (I'm getting a bit antsy though!). One can somewhat control social distancing at a grocery store or restaurant. At a bar/party situation probably not nearly the control: drunk guy/gal stumbles against..... BM> ...Saw a news item where a restaurant re-opened and instead of blocking BM> off every other booth with tape they dressed up mannequins and blow-up BM> dolls and sat and posed them at the not-to-be-occupied tables. (Some BM> of the blow-up ones did look a little 'suspicious' and spooky!) Clever BM> idea to make the restaurant look less empty; wonder how many live BM> patrons took photos/selfies with the mannequins? NB> People being as they are, I'd guess it at least occurred to many NB> of them... and probably some did follow through... ;) I'll admit to thinking I might be tempted! At least take a picture of the mannequin-occupied tables. Selfie or picture of the group "chatting" with them is almost a natural. BM> Barber shops/salons, gyms, and another category or two could do BM> restricted openings starting yesterday (May 16). Where I go for a BM> haircut wasn't opening until today (Sunday), probably more for BM> scheduling purposes and maybe the company can write off all of last BM> week as a loss. Was a little surprised of the openings here as we're BM> one of the twenty-two counties still highly restricted in Iowa, mainly BM> because we didn't start getting cases until later. NB> Sounds like your governor reconsidered about whether to open your NB> counties, then... and it really does show how differently various NB> things are viewed from state to state.... Those are in a much NB> later category for us... barber shops etc aren't open yet, and I NB> think we've entered phase 2.... There were probably other considerations of which I was not aware. Sometimes just easier to go with the flow: barber shop open - OK, get a haircut eventually. Barber shop open, well, makes it rather hard to get a haircut there! (Self-trimming aside.) BM> Currently raining + fog: not going to be getting any outside work done BM> today! Ground is saturated from the rain last week; sump pump started BM> doing it's thing yesterday. Autumm investigated the drain and then BM> ran off as there was some bugs she didn't like -- normally she likes BM> bugs: she even put five 'roly polies' in a plastic doll bed, added a BM> small cap-like thing with water for them.... NB> Maybe those bugs she didn't like looked particularly ugly/scary NB> and not at all cute.... Quite possibly. Some bugs don't have that attractiveness quality, at least to humans. And she was playing with some roly-polies she found in the rock garden here yesterday. (She did return them when she was done.) BM>>>> the Burning Bush doesn't look too good: several of the trunk branches NB> BM>>> Haven't done anything directly with the Burning Bush but looks to be BM>>> dead. Not sure what the other shrub/bush is but the leaves look to be BM>>> different from what I remember the Burning Bush having, but could be BM>>> because has recently budded and not fully leafed out. Need to do BM>>> other yard work before cutting out the dead branches. NB>>> You'll get to it soon enough... ;) BM>> Yup. Was doing some yard cleanup yesterday and with it greening up BM>> doesn't look as bad. Still needs to be done of course. But First! NB>> A bit at a time... ;) BM> And today's not it's time! NB> Has it happened yet....? ;) Uh, no. Too, hot, too rainy, roof repair, taking care of Autumn.... If the dead branches rot won't have to cut!! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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