Subj : Re: Miss.RvrDamBreach-Davenpt To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Sat May 09 2020 00:28:24 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-May-2020 09:10 <=- NB>>> I suppose no way of knowing when the ones now being placed arrived.... NB>>> I wonder if they'd be stored, sand and all, though, and the sand would NB>>> just dry out to be ready for the next flood... or maybe there's a way NB>>> to remove the sand without damaging the boxes.... BM>> I'm thinking not, though also don't recall hearing one way or another. NB>> Probably most people don't pay any attention to details like that, NB>> unless they are actually involved in the doing of it, so not so likely NB>> any announcements about that sort of thing... Just curious sorts like NB>> us tend to wonder about it... ;) BM> More than likely. Similar for a lot of things: just happens. Up BM> until a few messages ago I didn't know the size of a HESCO barrier: was BM> just a big box filled with sand by a bulldozer and a lot more efficient BM> than sandbags. And generally that would be sufficient to know... until we start getting curious... ;) BM>> Ah! Just learned something: the product is actually called "Floodline" BM>> but I've never heard it called that. ..They even go back and forth: BM>> FLOODLINE is ideal for emergency flood response, offering BM>> significant advantages over traditional sandbags, in terms of cost, BM>> time and labor requirement for installation. BM>> A wall using HESCO earth-filled barrier can be filled by two people BM>> and a standard front-end loader in just 20 minutes. The equivalent BM>> sized wall of 1,500 sandbags can take 10 people up to 7 hours to fill BM>> and build. BM>> (FWIW the size is 48" H, 36" W, 15" D.) Ah! There are two styles: one BM>> is 'Recoverable'.... Go to details and need to put in contact BM>> information so will end the search there. NB>> Looks like the company name is HESCO, and the various products have NB>> different names but usually end up being refered to by the company NB>> name instead of the product name... Jackbox sounds like the size that NB>> an individual might be using to protect his yard and house from a NB>> flooding stream, rather than what a community would put up along the NB>> raging river to protect a wider area.... ;) BM> The Jackbox is about half the size of the Floodline, so possible BM> targeted to the consumer buyer, though a testimonal story is about a BM> one-in-seventy-five year flood in England. Ok, in that case, something more suited to smaller rivers than the mighty Mississippi... ;) I also noticed this time through that you found one version of the Floodline called Recoverable... perhaps that's what Davenport got, even....? BM>>> Rock Island (IL) (across the River) is a little more elevated above BM>>> the River and so a lot less area to protect. They have some some BM>>> floodgates which are raised during flooding. Other towns (seems mostly BM>>> downriver from here) have levees for protection. NB>>> Each locality develops their own ways of dealing with the inevitable NB>>> flooding... ;) BM>> Right. Here in Bettendorf we essentially do nothing. We're barely BM>> five miles from Downtown Davenport. Slight bit of elevation and the BM>> only area that gets wet is an area about the size of a house lot called BM>> Martha's Point (no, no idea who Martha is). They do put up a short BM>> flood wall, so without apparently more flooding would occur. NB>> That bit of elevation does indeed make a major difference... :) BM> It does! :) We aren't all that far from the Genesee River, but it's both a lot smaller than the Mississippi and, as it goes through the city, it's mostly in various depths of a ravine... And our neighborhood is somewhat elevated as well, and our house is on a slight elevation of our street as well... No worries here... ;) BM>>> Plus for the past week or so the parks are closed. Iowa is one of the BM>>> few states without the stay-in-home order; seems like we went from the BM>>> opposite direction and closed everything down so no place to go so may BM>>> as well stay home! NB>>> As far as I know our parks weren't ever closed.... but not many are NB>>> going there... everything else was closed down except for essential NB>>> business, though, so still not really any place to go, so the stay NB>>> home order is almost superfluous... BM>> Uh-huh! No where to go! Heard on the news this morning BM>> Governor Pritzker (Illinois) is planning to sign an order to BM>> essentially extend the shutdown until May 30th. Appears this one will BM>> allow some businesses to re-open but require social distancing. The BM>> news blurb didn't go into details; maybe none available yet. Nothing BM>> mentioned on what Governor Reynolds (Iowa) is going to do; I'd expect BM>> something similar. NB>> Sounds a lot like what I'm hearing various states are doing... :) BM> Bit of a mail lag but Iowa has re-opened 77 of the 99 counties on a BM> restricted basis. We're not one of them but we also were among the BM> last if not the last country to have a COVID-19 case so make sense to BM> not be able to re-open yet. (Surrounding countries are also part of BM> the 22; they too were among the last to report cases.) Makes sense... are the re-opening counties doing ok...? As far as I know, nothing's really been reopened here yet... still on PAUSE until at least May 15... and I guess he's looking at the stats for various regions to determing who's "ready" to reopen.... NB>>> She reminds me of other kids that are too smart for their own good NB>>> sometimes.... :) Good that she passed that test, though... :) BM>> Yes on the smart-off stuff. LIS she likes to give the wrong answer to BM>> see if we're paying attention, or maybe the artist in her kicks in and BM>> she sees/interprets the pattern outside of the rules. NB>> One thing she'll need to learn soon is when to use that strength, and NB>> when to follow the rules.... ;) BM> I'm quite sure she will. I think what will help that is to be back in BM> school with the other kids and teachers: initially the other people BM> won't know her joking style so possibly unintended reaction which will BM> temper/alter Autumn. Time will tell.... :) NB>>> We've only had snow in dribs and drabs, too... hardly accumulating... NB>>> but my sister, a little south of here was getting it a couple inches NB>>> at a time... it is, though, colder than it should be this time of NB>>> year... BM>> All that makes the weather interesting: one usually assumes north is BM>> colder so that's where the snow would be. Probably a lot of terrain BM>> factoring in: funneling in rain or snow in one area and leaving BM>> another dry. NB>> Where she is, it is a higher elevation than here in town... and she NB>> gets lake effect storms off the end of Lake Erie from the Buffalo NB>> region that we miss being further north... we only get stuff off Lake NB>> Ontario... BM> Sometimes that's enough! This year's not been so bad... BM>>>> the Burning Bush doesn't look too good: several of the trunk branches BM>> Haven't done anything directly with the Burning Bush but looks to be BM>> dead. Not sure what the other shrub/bush is but the leaves look to be BM>> different from what I remember the Burning Bush having, but could be BM>> because has recently budded and not fully leafed out. Need to do BM>> other yard work before cutting out the dead branches. You'll get to it soon enough... ;) BM>> Trees and shrubs are budding but seems slower: doesn't seem to be much BM>> difference since last weekend. NB>> Things are looking positively springlike here now... yesterday saw my NB>> first dandelions...bright little yellow dots in my neighbor's lawn... ;) BM> Definite starting-to-green-up out there now. Yup... :) ttyl neb .... Explosion Rocks Kitchen! Cat claims innocence! --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .