Subj : Y2K again..? was: Note f To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Fri May 01 2020 09:05:00 Hi Nancy! NB>>> That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone is NB>>> supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly NB>>> greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is... BM>> We're not 'everybody'! 'New and improved' might be better, but is it BM>> better for me? I usually don't need the latest and greatest, NB>> Indeed. And from my point of view, not having to learn new spells NB>> is a major goodness... :) BM> True! And sometimes with the new they took away an option used by a BM> Magic Spell so no longer works. May be 'new' but for that option not BM> an 'improved'. NB> Indeed...!! Appears 'improved' is a consideration by the individual. BM>>> Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old BM>>> - thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2. NB>>> I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though I NB>>> get laughed at for expressing that.... BM>> To me makes sense: data on a USB 3 thumbdrive -- try to stick it into BM>> a USB 2 port and doesn't work - gaaa!! Of course some things just BM>> won't work together: try sticking a VHS cassette into a DVD player! BM>> Though they did have VHS/DVD devices - just 'cheated' and had two BM>> devices in one unit. NB>> On my computer, the tower has a zipdrive disk slot, and a CD-ROM... NB>> and also, in one slot of the tower a dual drive with a slot for each NB>> of the 3 1/2 and the 5 1/4 floppies... The original computer had a NB>> drive for the SSSD disks and another for the DSHD disks... that still NB>> sits to the side of the computer desk, with the printer sitting atop NB>> it... :) BM> Years back I purchasd a refurbished computer with a Zipdrive in it; BM> didn't buy the computer just because of the Zipdrive but did select it BM> over another one without -- at the time figured could be handy to have BM> the Zipdrive. Never did get used (no media). NB> I use the Zipdrive disks for storage all the time... and for a NB> while was using them to download HUGE files onto, since they have NB> more capacity... Right: definite advantage of Zipdrives over floppies. Here it ended up by the time I got around to Zipdrives being useful thumbdrives were available and easier to use. Here generally transferred or moved large files using the network (LAN). BM> Also have 3«- and 5¬-inch drives -- stored. Used to install on a BM> computer as I was building but used less and less until not at all. I BM> did get a 3«" USB floppy several years back (probably a lot longer BM> than 'several') but haven't used that in I don't know how long. NB> Richard got one of those 3 1/2" USB floppy drives, and uses it NB> for "sneakernet" to the Windows10 touchscreen machine.... for any NB> of the other machines I think there's a 3 1/2" drive installed NB> for "sneaker netting"... Right. I've been using 16 GB thumbdrives for SneakerNet and probably 95% of the time still have 15 GB free! For me just easier. NB>> What I use for a laptop, though, keeps getting upgraded.... NB>> recently Richard replaced the one I was using (that was having the NB>> battery issues) with a Dell... much larger, different capabilities, NB>> etc... I'm working on familiarizing myself with it... BM> I never quite got in to laptops and notebooks. Have, just rarely use; BM> prefer the bigger screen, a full-sized keyboard, etc. I know can plug BM> those into the laptop. I guess more started because when I was away BM> from the computer I didn't want it following me: if I'm outside I want BM> to take a break from the computer. NB> I use it when traveling, mostly... Back in the bad old days, I'd NB> use it to be reading the day before's packet while spending all NB> evening downloading the new message packet(s)... Yup: I used to spend an hour or so transferring the BBS packet. Now it's a few seconds! ...There are files which still take an hour or so, though rarely. NB>>> I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at Wegmans... if NB>>> I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be too surprised to NB>>> find they had listings which put them in a more favorable light NB>>> against the other stores, though... BM>> That would tend to make sense! I've also noticed some grocery BM>> products have a rotation of who has it on sale this week. Noted in the BM>> past where Hy-Vee will have the brand of supplements I take on sale BM>> this week, next week Walgreens will, following week someone else..... NB>> There aren't a lot of things I pay attention to the circulars for... NB>> if the sale is actually originating from the manufacturer/supplier, NB>> it could make sense to have the sales "make the rounds" of the NB>> different stores, though... BM> About the only thing we compare for price is the Christmas Turkey. I BM> don't think have ever purchased at Hy-Vee because it seems their offer BM> is always buy a ham, get a free turkey. We don't need a ham! BM> Schnuck's, Target, Walmart, Aldi usually have a week with a BM> super-cheap price and get it then, making room in the freezer here BM> until time to thaw. NB> We don't get the turkey, either... ;) I'll generally buy a NB> package of two turkey thighs, and that will do us (especially as NB> we much prefer the dark meat, not the breast)... but then, we are NB> generally going somewhere else for Thanksgiving and for NB> Christmas, so another reason not to need for the festivity... NB> Wegmans generally has some sort of decent price per pound on it NB> for the holidays, though... if we were interested... Yes, if just the two of you now need to buy even a small turkey -- leftovers for next Thanksgiving! The drumsticks would be enough and enough of the 'turkey' feeling. We've done Cornish Game Hens: festive, something different, easy to cook, and no to one leftover meal. BM>> Yes, I suppose there is some logic down the road somewhere. Not sure BM>> if the manufacturer really cared: you want a blue light, buy enough, BM>> sure! You want with a flimsy roller that is going to break and make us BM>> look bad? No. NB>> The differentiating at least needs to uphold the quality of the NB>> product, after all... ;) BM> "Blue LEDs rule!" "White light is right!" In this instance BM> there were no other differences but when we were shopping around for BM> a refrigerator noting things like the shelving: open racks vs. solid BM> shelves, number, if could be moved. Lighting in the refrigerator and BM> freezer compartments would be a yes, what colour - egh! NB> Yup, shelving was something we paid attention to, also... NB> especially the flexibility and ease of cleaning... No light in NB> our freezer, though... :) Freezers usually get packed so the built-in light is usually manages to get covered, or at least with incandescent type. With the LEDs could probably put the strip at the front or along the top. IMO a freezer light is handy but not a deal-killer. NB>> We'd be similar on the washer/dryer to you... but for us, the water NB>> and ice in/on the fridge would be a liability... we'd just as soon NB>> have the extra space they consume available, as well... but we would NB>> be a little more particular about the color.... BM> When you look around for a new 'fridge the water in the door option BM> probably doesn't take too much room: small container in the back of BM> the refrigerator to cool the water, a spigot area on the front door. NB> Still something else to break down... ;) And might still take up NB> more space than I'd want it to... :) The ice maker does take up a lot of space, one reason why we have a second bare-bones refrig in the basement; plus my old 5.1 (or is it 3.1?) cubic foot freezer from the apartment. OTOH we do buy a lot of frozen/to be frozen food. BM>> Computer stuff I don't care to look inside except when I'm working on BM>> it, so clear panels, LED lighting, to me interesting for about five BM>> seconds. OTOH did see while back a case with a medium-resolution BM>> display on the case -- hmm: maybe put the weather stuff on it??!! NB>> Yup, some of the bells and whistles are just distractions... ;) NB>> But if one has a valid use for it, then maybe.... ;) BM> For me the display on the side of the computer case could be of BM> interest. Would require some rearranging: currently this computer is BM> on a little table (UPS is under the table) off the right side of the BM> Computer Desk - would either need to be elevated or probably make more BM> sense just to put the the computer on the end of the desk and use the BM> top of the table for storage. ...And one has to remember the computer BM> case's display is on the left side; I temporarily put the backup BM> computer on the left side of the desk and in that configuration the BM> display would not show! NB> Yup, you'd need to rearrange for that to work for you.... ;) Right. This computer desk has a space for a computer (desktop, upright) to my left, which I always thought was odd as most people are right- handed. There is a correspoding space on the left with a CD/DVD rack and two narrow storage spaces -- I've got notebooks in them. And no, can't be swapped. ...Actually the computer position on the left makes sense as they put the space for a printer on the left. The laser printer doesn't fit and so now has the shredder. NB>>> The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is Don't NB>>> Attract Attention.... ;) BM>> Haven't heard/read about it lately but for a while there BM>> were lots of regional drug busts because the driver was speeding. 80 BM>> MPH in a 65 tends to attract attention! NB>> Contenders for the Darwin Award, I'd say... BM> Appears so!! Haven't heard anything lately on the news; doubt if ran BM> out! NB> Maybe there's too much else happening..... I suppose.... ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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