Subj : Y2K again..? was: Note f To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Sat Apr 11 2020 09:14:00 Hi Nancy! BM>>>> Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines. NB>>>> Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :) BM>>> Last one gets the credit! NB>>> Yup, generally so, as there is only one line available for that sort NB>>> of credit... although, I think I vaguely remember seeing some messages NB>>> with multiple lines of that sort.... probably something that someone NB>>> set up on their own.... BM>> There are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to BM>> use this new 'standard'. NB>> I was thinking more of an individual thing... not something to NB>> become a new standard.... and besides, old software wouldn't know NB>> about any new standards, so wouldn't/couldn't be using them... :) BM> You're right: most old software does use the old standards! (I'm BM> soooo in trouble for that one!) NB> That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone is NB> supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly NB> greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is... We're not 'everybody'! 'New and improved' might be better, but is it better for me? I usually don't need the latest and greatest, ...and I'm trying to think of an example where I did go "I gotta have that!" and bought. Ummm.... Not I don't embrace change, just usually wait until they get the kinks out (and the initial price comes down!). BM> Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old BM> - thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2. NB> I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though I NB> get laughed at for expressing that.... To me makes sense: data on a USB 3 thumbdrive -- try to stick it into a USB 2 port and doesn't work - gaaa!! Of course some things just won't work together: try sticking a VHS cassette into a DVD player! Though they did have VHS/DVD devices - just 'cheated' and had two devices in one unit. BM> OTOH sometimes just not possible: digital TV, though there are adapters BM> for the analog sets. NB> A form of backwards adaptability, anyway.... ;) True, though I'd go more 'compatible' than 'backwards compartible'. BM>>> A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used BM>>> to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various BM>>> web sites. NB>>> B&M probably do do at least some of the price-checking in person, NB>>> locally... of course, there are almost always some "wicked deal" or NB>>> loss leader sales, but generally they do stay rather close to each NB>>> other... or boast about how they've got the lowest prices in town... BM>> ,,,By one cent! Also have to watch sizes/capacities/fabrics, etc.: BM>> Store A may have a 10 oz. bottle while Store B has 11 oz. NB>> Wegmans is pretty good about comparing equivalents.... of course, they NB>> probably pick items where they do have the price advantage... ;) A NB>> poster with all the available items would be too big, so they only NB>> list a dozen or so... ;) BM> Probably would pick just the ones advantageous to them! OTOH BM> _occasionally_ could do something where a competitor had a lower BM> price, red-X through the higher Wegman's price and show the new lower BM> price. NB> I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at NB> Wegmans... if I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be NB> too surprised to find they had listings which put them in a more NB> favorable light against the other stores, though... That would tend to make sense! I've also noticed some grocery products have a rotation of who has it on sale this week. Noted in the past where Hy-Vee will have the brand of supplements I take on sale this week, next week Walgreens wiil, following week someone else..... BM>> Know with BM>> Large Applances at the store the various competitors (and my store) BM>> got around price matching for the same model as wasn't quite the same BM>> model: got a different model number because something was changed. NB>> And manufacturers would likely make minor changes from one chain to NB>> another anyway... call it something for one store and another sub- NB>> brand name for another.... :) So of course the model number would NB>> have to be different... :) BM> Right, though I'm remembering one specific incident a few years before BM> I retired with a national brand sold by us and another store up the BM> Mall. IIRC the only difference was a blue interior light instead of BM> white -- that different model numbers (of course), and so could not be BM> price- matched which (irritated) the salesman to a high degree as the BM> competitor was lower in price and he was loosing sales (and so BM> commission). NB> I can see where that would be irritating... seems not NB> particularly fair of the manufacturer to play along with that.... NB> but I suppose that could be turned upside down, and your store NB> could have sold it for less than the other store was, and thereby NB> got the sale.... :) Yes, I suppose there is some logic down the road somewhere. Not sure if the manufacturer really cared: you want a blue light, buy enough, sure! You want with a flimsy roller that is going to break and make us look bad? No. BM>> And I think I wrote a while back where I paid a dollar more for the BM>> same item (may have been the same seller) and got the better deal BM>> because that one had free shipping. Actually saved money by paying BM>> more. NB>> You probably did mention that before... and yes, the buyer needs to NB>> take all sorts of things into consideration to be sure that it is the NB>> best deal... ;) BM> On-line I will look around a bit for best or at least better deals: BM> spending an hour on-line to save a penny isn't my way of shopping. BM> Brick-and-mortar shopping -- how much I price compare depends on the BM> price and item: I usually start off knowing such-and-such store has BM> decent prices, so if I like the item it gets purchased - done! OTOH a BM> thousand-dollar refrigerator, we're spending time to get a good price BM> plus the features we want! NB> I don't shop online at all, but with other shopping, I do tend to NB> know what the prices are at the store(s) I regularly shop at, so NB> I know if something elsewhere is any sort of a deal... but NB> generally do tend to shop just at certain stores anyway... :) NB> And like you, with some major purchase, we'll be looking various NB> places to get the price and the features (or lack thereof) we NB> want... Part of my 'best deal' requirements depends on where the item is going to be located. Washer and dryer are in the basement, on the 'unfinished' side, so I could really care less what colour they are or even if they match. And 72-different washing and cooling temperatures? Only ever use three. OTOH the refrigerator probably needs to be white, maybe black, to match. Nothing wrong with stainless steel but wouldn't look right. We use the through-the-door water and ice, so for us is a requirment; can understand why not for other folks. Computer stuff I don't care to look inside except when I'm working on it, so clear panels, LED lighting, to me interesting for about five seconds. OTOH did see while back a case with a medium-resolution display on the case -- hmm: maybe put the weather stuff on it??!! BM>>>> ...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no BM>>>> sense: too easy to look around. NB>>>> But probably enough people don't look around, and do take the NB>>>> first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it.... BM>>> Ky suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal BM>>> way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies. NB>>> Probably another conference, as I don't recall the conversation... NB>>> but that could also be a factor in some cases.... BM>> Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target: BM>> law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a BM>> bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the BM>> seller. NB>> Money laundering could as easily be done with median-priced items, NB>> so law enforcement might not be able to spot it all that easily.... BM> True: "hiding in the crowd" seems safer than "out in the open" with BM> you've-got-to-be-kidding prices. NB> The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is NB> Don't Attract Attention.... ;) Haven't heard/read about it lately but for a while there were lots of regional drug busts because the driver was speeding. 80 MPH in a 65 tends to attract attention! NB>>>> And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at all NB>>>> any more... ;) BM>>> Every show became annoying! NB>>> Pretty much, at some point.... ;) And the ones that probably would NB>>> have held my interest, I'd either not know about or would forget about NB>>> when it actually showed... or Richard would be watching something NB>>> else... And now the only TV in the house isn't exactly easily NB>>> accessible for me.... ;) BM>> So even less TV! ...Just different forms of entertainment. :) NB>> Exactly... there's bbsing, reading... and so forth.... :) BM> And sometimes one feels like reading and sometimes not. :) NB> I have various sorts of reading available to me, as well... ;) NB> And if the eyes are tired, one can always take a nap.... "I was just resting my eyes!" NB> ... Millihelen - Amount of beauty needed to launch 1 ship. Down the Hudson River?! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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