Subj : Re: FWIW - Shingrex To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Apr 10 2020 17:41:00 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 02-Apr-2020 12:17 <=- NB>> Got interrupted last night with what turned out to be a long call... BM> That sounds like a "But First"! One could say that... ;) With everyone in isolation of one sort or another, seems there are more of those long calls, too.... It's good to be in contact, though... :) NB>>> And having fewer germs TO spread.... :) BM>> Yes, can't eliminate and the general problem seems to be one gets BM>> sick when overwhelmed. I don't know the scientific part as to the BM>> overwhelmed point is, and seems that would vary from individual to BM>> individual. Still, avoidance seems the best policy, to minimizine. BM>> Need some to build up immunity. NB>> Since each person's immune system is different (and can be different NB>> even for the same person at different times), yes, that overwhelmed NB>> point is quite variable... And I'm a firm believer in not getting NB>> too overboard on avoidance as well... it's a good thing to build up NB>> one's immune system by some contact.... BM> Right. Germs and other nasties are going to be encountered no matter BM> what so let's be to some degree prepared. Ingesting a ton of BM> supplements on a regular basis probably isn't good in general, though BM> a spike in Vitamin C does seem to ward off many of my "I feel like I BM> might be coming down with a cold" incidents. No real difference in my BM> lifestyle and meanderings, but obviously something was different and I BM> felt wrong. Some supplements can be helpful in boosting one's immune system, in one way or another... :) BM> I will admit to bringing hand sanitizer with me (and using it!) when I BM> go out lately. (That activity highly curtailed.) Rarely used it until BM> now as didn't feel a need to. Now - just a little extra layer of BM> protection. BTW I did find some time back hand sanitizer makes a BM> pretty good remover for ink jet printer ink spills! Hmmm... that almost sounds like an argument against using it on one's sensitive hands... Just like suggesting one not drink CocaCola judging on its ability to peel paint off a car... ;) BM>>> (Sneezing into ones hand slows the airborne transmission but BM>>> accelerates the physical contact mode, not just shaking hands but BM>>> touching stuff.) NB>>> Yes, best to sneeze into a tissue (and toss it at once), or into NB>>> the sleeve... :) BM>> And even after sneezing into a tissue and disposing it don't shake my BM>> hand, not touch the box, etc., then hand to me! NB>> Yup, one should have a little sense.... ;) The sleeve is probably a NB>> better habit to get into... :) BM> Slight grossness coming up! If one has a wet sneeze then would be BM> much better to sneeze into the Kleexex than into one clothing. Logic BM> should prevail. As long as one can predict what it would be like... BM>>> Shingrix can sort of be delayed because you're somewhat covered by BM>>> the original vaccination. NB>>> Oh... that's the one exception... never did get the original shingles NB>>> shot.... the Zostavax.... BM>> Oops! Maybe go and give the pharmacist/health care provider something BM>> different beside COVID-19! NB>> I think I'll wait to get the Shingrex now until COVID-19 is died NB>> down... don't want to overtax the immune system right now... :) BM> I would probably wait also. My second part is coming up the end of BM> the month; will ask the pharmacist's advice. (Starting is different BM> from continuing.) Perhaps.... but definitely would check on the advisability of the timing.... possible that the pharmacy would just as soon postpone to later in the effective period, given the pandemic situation... BM>>> Was reading where Shingrix may not be the one-dose-and-done as BM>>> originally thought -- seem to recall reading a recommendation for BM>>> another round in five years. Will see what my medical doctor BM>>> recommends when the time comes. NB>>> I thought it was just the Zostavax that was likely to need the NB>>> booster.... the Shingrex is a two-dose shot from the get-go, so I'd NB>>> think it would last more than just five years.... BM>> Guess we'll find out that answer eventually. Right now have a note BM>> paperclipped to my calendar to start asking about the second dose BM>> towards the middle of April -- I can get the second shot after April BM>> 20, IIRC. NB>> Since the second dose is good from 2 to 6 months after the first, NB>> I'd be inclined to wait till a little later in the cycle, unless NB>> the COVID virus leaves your area more alone than it has ours.... BM> Here in eastern Iowa we're pretty much in the beginning of the cycle, BM> so yes, delaying the second dose may be the better option. May be BM> classified as an 'optional procedure' and not allowed. That, too... (sorta what I was getting at above, too) BM>> Will ask and do some on-line checking; probably put a note in my BM>> calendar to inquire in four or five years -- what is said now may BM>> not be accurate later. NB>> And you might be conflating with the older vaccine, too.... BM> True. May be if the patient had the Zostavax plus Shingrix at certain BM> ages does one thing or 'early Shingrix' (before they ran out) has one BM> rule and 'new Shingrix' (the one currently) has a different rule BM> because of the way it was produced. Lots of variables... NB>>>> And certainly not important enough to risk an accident to get over NB>>>> into the proper lane... You'll get there soon enough... ;) BM>>> Cause of crash: hankerin' for M&M's. Hmmmm! NB>>> Nope, that doesn't fly.... BM>> Checked two weeks ago and didn't have; will check later this week as BM>> some of my Gas Points Perks are expiring. NB>> Good enough reason to stop by.... :) BM> As I think I said in an interim message did buy gas and the vendor had BM> been unable to come up with a supply, though is still trying. Right... I did see that... :) Like I've been saying, quite possible you were a test market for the coffee-flavored M&Ms, and now you'll just have to wait until they decide to bring them out for real... or never see them again, when they decide not to do so... ;/ ttyl neb .... System Error: (A)bort, (R)etry, (C)onsume Chocolate --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .