Subj : Re: moving or not was: C To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Mon Mar 30 2020 19:23:46 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Mar-2020 08:31 <=- NB>>> I've heard of such... dunno if I do have such on this computer, but NB>>> things are pretty well organized anyway... there's only one directory NB>>> it would have been in, and after "ls *.txt" failed to find it, I looked NB>>> at the entire list... :) And then checked a few other directories NB>>> just in case I'd moved it (highly unlikely, though)... "whereis" would NB>>> have turned it up anywhere on the same drive D, but I didn't go quite NB>>> that far.... ;) But those are only looking for the file names, not NB>>> checking inside the files themselves... BM>> Two potential oversights with "ls *.txt": if capitalized won't find. NB>> I'm using some *nix commands in DOS... DOS isn't case-sensitive... in NB>> fact, it turns anything Capitalized into all lower case... so ls *.txt NB>> works fine for anything I have.... BM> That was something I had to get used to: normally I write with the BM> first word of the sentence capitalized so sometimes was carried over to BM> the command entry. As you noted, doesn't matter for (MS-)DOS; sure BM> does for Linux! So Richard warned me, in my occasional forays into Linux... but not something I worry about in dos.... :) BM>> The other is if no extention won't find (obviously) but Linux probably BM>> won't have a problem with figuring out it's a text file (unlike some BM>> other operating system). First may help find your file, second one BM>> won't. NB>> My files are all in 8.3 format, sometimes with creative extensions... NB>> DOS and my editor can tell when something is actually a text file, NB>> too... BM> Good on that! I had taught Windows the 'BJM extension' (.BJM) was a BM> text file: my initials and something as a way to quickly find my notes BM> or comments. Windows needed to be told and placed in the table; Linux BM> just knew. Another strike against Windows.... ;) BM>> OK, since that was and wasn't helpful in ls finding a file with BM>> unknown case and Linux is very case sensitive (txt, TXT, tXt, TxT are BM>> four different files) did a little playing. ls itself does have a BM>> switch to ignore cases. grep does (-i), so "ls | grep -i txt" allows BM>> for case insensitivity. (Note not "*.txt".) ...You can do ".txt" to BM>> only list the extension hits. NB>> I'll try to remember that for if/when I switch to just Linux... so far NB>> I'm happily just using DOS for most of what I do.... and then, very NB>> occasionally, linux here or on one of Richard's machines, or Windows10 NB>> on the touchscreen machine of Richard's that lets me do websites that NB>> lynx can't handle.... BM> Always handy to be aware of some of the tricks and tips. :) May not BM> remember right off: there have been more than a few times I type in a BM> half-remembered command and the results don't come out as expected. BTDT, too... That's what a "spell book" list is for... keeping track of the commands one doesn't quite remember... ;) BM>> As much as I prefer keyboarding I do tend to use the mouse to do a lot BM>> of commands, primarily because they are not consistent and so safer: I BM>> don't accidentally type the wrong key. ...OTOH I'm sort of in DOS BM>> mode thinking writing this and thinking EDIT is "Alt F S" to Save and BM>> "Alt F X" to exit (which will also prompt to save if the file has been BM>> changed). NB>> One has to be in a graphic interface for the mouse to be helpful, NB>> even potentially... ;) Mine's strictly text... BM> There have been those times I grab the mouse to move the cursor and BM> the cursor just sits there! I'm not grabbing for the mouse.... just as well... BM>>> Friend's aunt's place was older but I don't think old-old and had the BM>>> only bathroom on the second floor. Fairly spacious - probably 12x12' BM>>> and had a closet. We sort of tried to figure out where a half-bath BM>>> could go on the first floor for her but never did. NB>>> My neighbor ended up getting a powder room put into what had been the NB>>> under the stairs coat closet, just enough room for a toilet and small NB>>> sink... Her house was built early 1900's, ours was built 1900.... BM>> My uncle had an older house when I was really young (~8) and I vaguely BM>> recall a really tiny bathroom (just toilet and sink - half-bath, like BM>> I knew that term then!) and it was tiny even by my standards (I was BM>> eight or so, so small). NB>> I suspect even your 8-y-o self would have found my neighbor's NB>> half-bath tiny as well.... ;) BM> There are some things one just should not skimp on, like bathroom BM> space! And there are times that that just isn't an option... when the only space available is barely large enough, and the only other choice is to not have anything at all (so just using a commode that needs dumping)... BM>>> We thought a claw-foot tub would look nice/different but as we got old BM>>> the stepping-up-and-over to get in (and out) is more of a bother! BM>>> ...Get one of those pet stairways?! NB>>> They do make assistive steps for people... I've seen them in NB>>> catalogs... :) BM>> Hopefully for both sides! I can get in with the steps, holding on and BM>> pivot to get into the tub - now how do I get out?! NB>> You use a bench seat in the tub, and stand up, put your leg over to NB>> the outside, repeat with other leg.... Or, even without the steps on NB>> the outside, one could sit on the edge of the tub, swing legs in or NB>> out and then procede as above... ;) BM> But the old tub's old and made of cast iron: it's c-c-cold!!! Oh, well... ;) BM> As for the tub-climbing, sort of what I did with the tub-shower at the BM> hotel in Vienna. The 'big problem' was the tub was on a 6- or 8-inch BM> rise (probably to accomodate the drain) so one had to climb up into the BM> tub and when exiting step up, over, and down almost an extra foot! One could really use those assistive steps on the outside there... :) ttyl neb .... Fired from orange juice factory - couldn't concentrate! ! --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .