Subj : weather was: food option To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Thu Mar 26 2020 07:37:00 Hi Nancy! NB>>> And as he's recounted it since, he's further explained that his risk NB>>> analysis was that the other drivers were more of a risk to him than NB>>> the weather/road conditions themselves... too many stupid ones still NB>>> out there... and that he'd've braved it had there been fewer ones to NB>>> contend with... ;) BM>> Haha yes: those other drivers are always a major factor! I pretty BM>> much know how I'm going to react; not at all sure about those others BM>> out there. NB>> Always possible that they'd be good drivers... but also possible that NB>> they'd be too cautious and become a hazard, or take their share of NB>> the road across more than one lane... or be too foolhardy and start NB>> slewing all over the road and maybe into the ditch..... BM> Or.... Yes, I assume the other driver isn't a maniac and in BM> control but also know some won't be. NB> At least we certainly hope that the other drivers aren't NB> maniacs... ;) That's true! Just constantly check those mirrors! BM> Maybe the better way of thinking is I want a safety circle around me; BM> whether good driver or bad, just stay away! NB> Easier said than done.... as you noted below.... True: "Oh look! A hole!". BM>>> As we increase our age our stupidity lessens! They say when young BM>>> most people have a feeling of immortality. Broke my leg in 2nd grade: BM>>> hey neat! cast gets signed, swing from the crutches.... Broke the BM>>> other leg several decades later: "wanna sign my staple" doesn't have BM>>> the same fun-ness. Walker - well guess could swing a little bit! BM>>> Takes five minutes to shuffle to the bathroom - plan ahead! NB>>> Besides, fewer people around are awed by the cast or equivalent when NB>>> one is older... ;) BM>> No - gets to be commonplace. The Wow Factor now comes with the fancy BM>> cane or the scooter with all the bells and whistles! NB>> Or the knee scooter... ;) BM> Those do look rather fun! Don't really want the condition requiring BM> use, but have seen some in use with plenty of 'performing' room and BM> they have been interesting! NB> Indeed.... One lady at church took a tumble and broke one ankle NB> and sprained the other... when they finally let her go anywhere, NB> she had one of those so that she could keep total weight off the NB> one leg and minimize the effort for the other one... I think she NB> had to start in a wheelchair.... My guess is start with the wheelchair to keep weight off the broken ankle until suitably mended to bear some weight, or with the knee scooter so the weight of the foot hanging doesn't cause pain. And maybe to see if the patient likes to 'peel out' with the wheelchair not to give them the knee scooter! NB>>> Ummm, no.... actually, it was that his tires were rather old, he was NB>>> figuring maybe 13 years old...? And the tread was separating from NB>>> the steel, left a bubble on the one tire under the tread... He NB>>> actually had enough tread left on them that the company gave him 40% NB>>> off on the replacements under the warranty.... BM>> Wow! Not so much the age of the tires as my parents didn't need to BM>> drive too far so not much milege on the car nor tires. I vague BM>> remember Dad saying something about the tread was fine but the rubber BM>> was was getting old and could fail. Don't recall him mentioning BM>> anything about a plenty-of-tread discount. NB>> These had been bought with a road hazard warranty included, and what NB>> actually precipitated the trip to the tire place was that he'd hit a NB>> curb hard, and that eventually had caused a bubble under the tread NB>> itself.... it was a bit of a surprise that the manager got the NB>> discount for him on both the tires he was replacing.... BM> Ah! Sort of forgot about the road hazard warranty. I've had it on my BM> tires but never needed to use it. (The idiot who slashed my tire BM> wasn't considerd a road hazard -- unless accidentally I ran over him. BM> ) As for the Wizard getting the discount on both tires, that is BM> surprising! Even if purchased as a pair only one was damaged. I'd BM> probably be continuing to do business with that shop! NB> We've been buying our tires from this particular BJ's for a long NB> time... decades... The current manager recognizes me when he's NB> wandering the main warehouse part of the store.... ;) I've had a NB> few road hazard incidents over the years, picking up NB> nails/screws, hitting potholes with these low-profile tires, NB> etc... Long-time customer who is nice and follows the rules; maybe the manager stretched his rules a bit in appreciation. :) NB>>> But my tires, while designed for gripping the road well, are a much NB>>> lower profile than his... so for inclement conditions, mine might not NB>>> be quite so good as digging through the junk... The car is low enough NB>>> and heavy enough that it's still pretty safe in slush though... :) BM>> That's good: sort of compensates for the potential loss of grip. BM>> ...Was just thinking: wonder if any of the neighbours think I'm a wild BM>> driver? In possibly slick driving conditions I'll do some testing in BM>> the driveway and on the street: driveway has a slight incline so when BM>> backing up I'll hit the brakes harder to test for sliding. Might also BM>> in the street. Sometimes a slightly fast takeoff to again test the BM>> conditions. Will sometimes test (gently!) while driving depending on BM>> how things feel. And of course no other driver too close. NB>> I suspect that your "pushing it" driving isn't all that obvious to NB>> others... doing it intentionally probably makes it look not that NB>> different from the ones that don't know what they are doing and skid NB>> around some.... ;) BM> Probably right: it's not a peel out nor slam the brakes as I'm testing BM> the driving conditions. Probably more "odd he's braking there". NB> If they even notice the brake lights... True. While I'm temporarily driving a hare erratically looking at the entire story (driving conditions) probably make sense. I'm not concerned. BM>> If potentially slippery just slow down -- the others can pass if they BM>> want to. NB>> As long as you leave plenty of space for them to do so... :) BM> I try to! Some will see the hole in front of me and pass to get where BM> they're going a split-second sooner and so fill my extra space. NB> It would be more amusing as one comes up behind them at the next NB> light where they've been stopped, if it weren't so frustrating to NB> have them cut in on you.... ;0 Oh there have been times when I pull up behind or even pass the other person and secretly smile to myself. BM> ... Why is "crazy man" an insult, while "Crazy, man!" is a compliment? NB> It's all in the punctuation.... Ah! :) ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Why are they called "stands" when they are made for sitting? --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .