Subj : moving or not was: C To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Fri Mar 20 2020 08:31:00 Hi Nancy! BM>> session to make room on the hard drive. Unless you have some sort of BM>> indexing utility which looks in text files to build a search catalogue BM>> then you might never find it. (Think Google or Bing search engine but BM>> for your personal computer.) NB>> I've heard of such... dunno if I do have such on this computer, but NB>> things are pretty well organized anyway... there's only one directory NB>> it would have been in, and after "ls *.txt" failed to find it, I looked NB>> at the entire list... :) And then checked a few other directories NB>> just in case I'd moved it (highly unlikely, though)... "whereis" would NB>> have turned it up anywhere on the same drive D, but I didn't go quite NB>> that far.... ;) But those are only looking for the file names, not NB>> checking inside the files themselves... BM> Two potential oversights with "ls *.txt": if capitalized won't find. NB> I'm using some *nix commands in DOS... DOS isn't NB> case-sensitive... in fact, it turns anything Capitalized into all NB> lower case.... so ls *.txt works fine for anything I have.... That was something I had to get used to: normally I write with the first word of the sentence capitalized so sometimes was carried over to the command entry. As you noted, doesn't matter for (MS-)DOS; sure does for Linux! BM> The other is if no extention won't find (obviously) but Linux probably BM> won't have a problem with figuring out it's a text file (unlike some BM> other operating system). First may help find your file, second one BM> won't. NB> My files are all in 8.3 format, sometimes with creative NB> extensions... ;) DOS and my editor can tell when something is NB> actually a text file, too... Good on that! I had taught Windows the 'BJM extension' (.BJM) was a text file: my initials and something as a way to quickly find my notes or comments. Windows needed to be told and placed in the table; Linux just knew. BM> OK, since that was and wasn't helpful in ls finding a file with BM> unknown case and Linux is very case sensitive (txt, TXT, tXt, TxT are BM> four different files) did a little playing. ls itself does have a BM> switch to ignore cases. grep does (-i), so "ls | grep -i txt" allows BM> for case insensitivity. (Note not "*.txt".) ...You can do ".txt" to BM> only list the extension hits. NB> I'll try to remember that for if/when I switch to just Linux... NB> so far I'm happily just using DOS for most of what I do.... and NB> then, very occasionally, linux here or on one of Richard's NB> machines, or Windows10 on the touchscreen machine of Richard's NB> that lets me do websites that lynx can't handle.... Always handy to be aware of some of the tricks and tips. :) May not remember right off: there have been more than a few times I type in a half-remembered command and the results don't come out as expected. BM> As much as I prefer keyboarding I do tend to use the mouse to do a lot BM> of commands, primarily because they are not consistent and so safer: I BM> don't accidentally type the wrong key. ...OTOH I'm sort of in DOS BM> mode thinking writing this and thinking EDIT is "Alt F S" to Save and BM> "Alt F X" to exit (which will also prompt to save if the file has been BM> changed). NB> One has to be in a graphic interface for the mouse to be helpful, NB> even potentially... ;) Mine's strictly text... There have been those times I grab the mouse to move the cursor and the cursor just sits there! NB>>> Ours had the upstairs bathroom first, and the downstairs was added in NB>>> the '50s (before our time) by taking over the pantry off the kitchen.. NB>>> So the upstairs had the tub.... and there was only room for a standup NB>>> shower downstairs.... :) BM>> Friend's aunt's place was older but I don't think old-old and had the BM>> only bathroom on the second floor. Fairly spacious - probably 12x12' BM>> and had a closet. We sort of tried to figure out where a half-bath BM>> could go on the first floor for her but never did. NB>> My neighbor ended up getting a powder room put into what had been the NB>> under the stairs coat closet, just enough room for a toilet and small NB>> sink... Her house was built early 1900's, ours was built 1900.... BM> My uncle had an older house when I was really young (~8) and I vaguely BM> recall a really tiny bathroom (just toilet and sink - half-bath, like BM> I knew that term then!) and it was tiny even by my standards (I was BM> eight or so, so small). NB> I suspect even your 8-y-o self would have found my neighbor's NB> half-bath tiny as well.... ;) There are some things one just should not skimp on, like bathroom space! BM>>> Upstairs is just a shower as we don't take baths. Space is about as BM>>> big as a tub would take if not a little larger. NB>>> Yours both sound more modern than either of ours... ;) BM>> We thought a claw-foot tub would look nice/different but as we got old BM>> the stepping-up-and-over to get in (and out) is more of a bother! BM>> ...Get one of those pet stairways?! NB>> They do make assistive steps for people... I've seen them in NB>> catalogs... :) BM> Hopefully for both sides! I can get in with the steps, holding on and BM> pivot to get into the tub - now how do I get out?! NB> You use a bench seat in the tub, and stand up, put your leg over NB> to the outside, repeat with other leg.... Or, even without the NB> steps on the outside, one could sit on the edge of the tub, swing NB> legs in or out and then procede as above... ;) But the old tub's old and made of cast iron: it's c-c-cold!!! As for the tub-climbing, sort of what I did with the tub-shower at the hotel in Vienna. The 'big problem' was the tub was on a 6- or 8-inch rise (probably to accomodate the drain) so one had to climb up into the tub and when exiting step up, over, and down almost an extra foot! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Senior Hits! Bobby Darin --- Splish, Splash, I Was Havin' a Flash --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .