Subj : Health Was: Nuts To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Fri Mar 13 2020 09:40:00 Hi Nancy! BM>>>> Seems like the wax and lacquer would keep the umbrella from folding, BM>>>> but then maybe it didn't. A collapsing/folding umbrella is probably BM>>>> a newer option. NB>>>> Hard to say.... If the wax/lacquer layer was thin enough it might NB>>>> still fold.... BM>>> Possibly, though I'm still thinking a high possibilty of cracking. BM>>> ...Maybe left open. NB>>> Possibly left open.... BM>> Another bit of historial trivia solved by logic! NB>> Or at least surmised at by logic... ;) BM> Are you implying something done accidentally solved a BM> problem?! NB> [shrug] Happens often enough... But who said anything about NB> solving a problem here... ;) So maybe there wasn't a problem in the first place; we (or I?!) just thought there was? BM>>> Maybe designed as 'scales', though pictures I've seen seem to BM>>> indicate not. NB>>> It might have just partially folded down, too... not folded as NB>>> tightly as is done now.... BM>> That could be too. If used for protection from the Sun would be in BM>> almost daily use, though still that little issue about storing at BM>> night or even when going inside. NB>> Well, older houses did have larger vestibules, so there might have NB>> been sufficient room for umbrella storage.... ;) BM> Possibly! Thinking that would still take a lot of space even if BM> hanging from the ceiling and/or wall. NB> I was thinking of ones that essentially are another large room NB> like the living room... one side of it could be used to have the NB> umbrellas sitting, tops tilting to the floor... ;) That could work. I was sort of restricting to being out of the living or gathering rooms. BM> ...The history of umbrellas especially the trivia on storage might BM> make for a unique research paper for some student! Teacher/instructor/ BM> professor (dependant on grade) probably never had that material BM> presented before! NB> Depends on whether there is some sort of documentation available NB> somewhere... but, true... probably a rathe unique paper... ;) Something to keep whomever is grading the paper interested! BM>>> Right. Little bit of electricity (provided by the battery when the BM>>> engine is off) always being drawn to power the alarm circuit: when the BM>>> door lock module is working properly minimal draw but when the module BM>>> started 'acting up' that draw increased and drained the battery. So BM>>> ended up the 'battery problem' solved my door locks problem (and the BM>>> slow leak in the tires). NB>>> The battery was able to draw attention to the actual problems... ;) BM>> Lock system was complaining to the other parts I was ignoring him; BM>> battery stepped up and said "I'll get his attention!". NB>> There you go... ascribing some sort of sentience again... ;) Besides, NB>> you weren't ignoring him... you just didn't have a clue what the NB>> problem really was.... :) BM> True! "Yes, I know you're sick but I don't know how to find BM> which one is the sick one (all the locks were misbehaving) - I need BM> more information!" LIS had found some repair information on the web BM> but "I am not a mechanic nor do I play one on TV" -- figured could BM> research this (IMO) quirky problem and at least make it somewhat easier BM> on who was evetually going to fix. ...Dealership's mechanics either BM> knew or looked it up. NB> And had a better sense of what to look for.... And may have been a common problem once I suggested it: the shop liason guy pretty much stopped when I mentioned the lock issue -- he had initially asked if I had added any aftermarket items (possibly installed improperly); no, then I mentioned the locks. NB>>> The happier battery might account for the blinker click being more NB>>> defined, too... :) BM>> Yes: possible the lock module problem was drawing down the system BM>> voltage, or sending static signals one of the computer systems BM>> interpreted as cut the voltage output slightly. (The X10-controlled BM>> lights around here start doing odd things when the batteries in the BM>> master controller get weak. X10 = home automation) LISB4 (I think) BM>> if the car had an actual voltmeter display instead of an idiot light I BM>> might have noted something wrong. NB>> Yeah... meters are so much more informative than idiot lights... :) BM> Yes, though don't have the option. Suppose could install one's own -- BM> LIS, I'm not a mechanic. And now may not need to monitor voltage for BM> some time. NB> No, that probably won't be a problem now for a while... I don't NB> know how available car volt guages are anymore... there used to NB> be a catalog for that sort of thing (and other car accessaries), NB> J.C.Whitney... but I think they may have gone out of business... NB> Richard used to get their catalogs all the time at one point... I did too, possibly because of installing a rear window defroster grid for my first car. ...Googled: JC Whitney is a retailer of aftermarket automotive parts and accessories. As of 2010, it is a wholly owned subsidiary of U.S. Auto Parts. Still very much present as JCWhitney.com. Might be something to keep in the back of ones mind; I don't know enough about cars to consider doing repair work on my own -- looks like they offer fenders, mirrors, seats. ...Seat cover I could handle! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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