Subj : Re: Health Was: Nuts To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Mar 13 2020 00:35:52 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Mar-2020 10:00 <=- BM>>>> Seems like the wax and lacquer would keep the umbrella from folding, BM>>>> but then maybe it didn't. A collapsing/folding umbrella is probably BM>>>> a newer option. NB>>>> Hard to say.... If the wax/lacquer layer was thin enough it might NB>>>> still fold.... BM>>> Possibly, though I'm still thinking a high possibilty of cracking. BM>>> ...Maybe left open. NB>>> Possibly left open.... BM>> Another bit of historial trivia solved by logic! NB>> Or at least surmised at by logic... ;) BM> Are you implying something done accidentally solved a BM> problem?! [shrug] Happens often enough... But who said anything about solving a problem here... ;) BM>>> Maybe designed as 'scales', though pictures I've seen seem to BM>>> indicate not. NB>>> It might have just partially folded down, too... not folded as NB>>> tightly as is done now.... BM>> That could be too. If used for protection from the Sun would be in BM>> almost daily use, though still that little issue about storing at BM>> night or even when going inside. NB>> Well, older houses did have larger vestibules, so there might have NB>> been sufficient room for umbrella storage.... ;) BM> Possibly! Thinking that would still take a lot of space even if BM> hanging from the ceiling and/or wall. I was thinking of ones that essentially are another large room like the living room... one side of it could be used to have the umbrellas sitting, tops tilting to the floor... ;) BM> ...The history of umbrellas especially the trivia on storage might BM> make for a unique research paper for some student! Teacher/instructor/ BM> professor (dependant on grade) probably never had that material BM> presented before! Depends on whether there is some sort of documentation available somewhere... but, true... probably a rathe unique paper... ;) BM>>> Right. Little bit of electricity (provided by the battery when the BM>>> engine is off) always being drawn to power the alarm circuit: when the BM>>> door lock module is working properly minimal draw but when the module BM>>> started 'acting up' that draw increased and drained the battery. So BM>>> ended up the 'battery problem' solved my door locks problem (and the BM>>> slow leak in the tires). NB>>> The battery was able to draw attention to the actual problems... ;) BM>> Lock system was complaining to the other parts I was ignoring him; BM>> battery stepped up and said "I'll get his attention!". NB>> There you go... ascribing some sort of sentience again... ;) Besides, NB>> you weren't ignoring him... you just didn't have a clue what the NB>> problem really was.... :) BM> True! "Yes, I know you're sick but I don't know how to find BM> which one is the sick one (all the locks were misbehaving) - I need BM> more information!" LIS had found some repair information on the web BM> but "I am not a mechanic nor do I play one on TV" -- figured could BM> research this (IMO) quirky problem and at least make it somewhat easier BM> on who was evetually going to fix. ...Dealership's mechanics either BM> knew or looked it up. And had a better sense of what to look for.... NB>>> The happier battery might account for the blinker click being more NB>>> defined, too... :) BM>> Yes: possible the lock module problem was drawing down the system BM>> voltage, or sending static signals one of the computer systems BM>> interpreted as cut the voltage output slightly. (The X10-controlled BM>> lights around here start doing odd things when the batteries in the BM>> master controller get weak. X10 = home automation) LISB4 (I think) BM>> if the car had an actual voltmeter display instead of an idiot light I BM>> might have noted something wrong. NB>> Yeah... meters are so much more informative than idiot lights... :) BM> Yes, though don't have the option. Suppose could install one's own -- BM> LIS, I'm not a mechanic. And now may not need to monitor voltage for BM> some time. No, that probably won't be a problem now for a while... I don't know how available car volt guages are anymore... there used to be a catalog for that sort of thing (and other car accessaries), J.C.Whitney... but I think they may have gone out of business... Richard used to get their catalogs all the time at one point... ttyl neb .... Live so that the family parrot can live afterwards. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .