Subj : moving or not was: C To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Wed Mar 11 2020 08:45:00 Hi Nancy! NB>>> At one point, I'd copied a few symbols to a textfile that I could NB>>> access if needed... now I forget what I called it... BM>> BTDT!! NB>>> But part of the problem is that I don't really need them all that NB>>> often... BM>> Probably just recreate the text file including the symbols you BM>> currently use -- and when you save it as SYMBOLS.TXT you'll find that's BM>> what you called the original file!! NB>> Just dropped to dos and did a quick look... didn't find that one... NB>> and did a bit of a lookaround and didn't find anything likely at NB>> all... not a clue what I called it... maybe I decided I didn't really NB>> need it and deleted it.... BM> That's a possibility too - or accidentally got deleted with a purge BM> session to make room on the hard drive. Unless you have some sort of BM> indexing utility which looks in text files to build a search catalogue BM> then you might never find it. (Think Google or Bing search engine but BM> for your personal computer.) NB> I've heard of such... dunno if I do have such on this computer, NB> but things are pretty well organized anyway... there's only one NB> directory it would have been in, and after "ls *.txt" failed to NB> find it, I looked at the entire list... :) And then checked a NB> few other directories just in case I'd moved it (highly unlikely, NB> though)... "whereis" would have turned it up anywhere on the NB> same drive D, but I didn't go quite that far.... ;) But those NB> are only looking for the file names, not checking inside the NB> files themselves... Two potential oversights with "ls *.txt": if capitalized won't find. The other is if no extention won't find (obviously) but Linux probably won't have a problem with figuring out it's a text file (unlike some other operating system). First may help find your file, second one won't. OK, since that was and wasn't helpful in ls finding a file with unknown case and Linux is very case sensitive (txt, TXT, tXt, TxT are four different files) did a little playing. ls itself does have a switch to ignore cases. grep does (-i), so "ls | grep -i txt" allows for case insensitivity. (Note not "*.txt".) ...You can do ".txt" to only list the extension hits. BM>>> Why there are some odd occurrances when people switch from one piece BM>>> of software to another! NB>>> Yup, the magic spells aren't always identical from one to the NB>>> other... :) BM>> Nope: as I indicated in other messages back when I was selling BM>> computers Apple had some sort of 'rule' in effect for their software BM>> and for third-party vendors where certain keys always had the same BM>> function: F1 = Help, F9 = Volume Down, F10 = Volume Up (as examples, BM>> don't know if accurate representations). NB>> F1 is pretty standard for Help, across the board... BM> True; not the best example for randomized Function key assignments. NB> The other two, though, do tend to be more specialized depending NB> on the software.... My genealogy program uses the F9 for NB> repeating an entry, F10 for accepting a screen... or finishing NB> and exiting the program, depending on where one is.... Emacs, f9 NB> is save file, f10 is exit emacs.... As much as I prefer keyboarding I do tend to use the mouse to do a lot of commands, primarily because they are not consistent and so safer: I don't accidentally type the wrong key. ...OTOH I'm sort of in DOS mode thinking writing this and thinking EDIT is "Alt F S" to Save and "Alt F X" to exit (which will also prompt to save if the file has been changed). BM>> Tends to make sense as easier when switching from one piece of software BM>> to another. OTOH for the basic functions makes sense but may become BM>> restrictive when one gets in to extended functions. NB>> That's where one has f1 and F1, or more likely F1 and Shift-F1... :) NB>> And gets another four from adding F11 and F12.... ;) BM> My first computer was a DEC Rainbow 100 and it had a shallow drawer BM> along the top, above the function keys (which I think went to F19), BM> with a clear cover. Many utilities came with a long strip of plastic BM> with the function of the function keys printed on it -- place in the BM> well. Sometimes needed a magnifying glass as the function keys not only BM> has no-shift and shift_Function, but Ctrl_Fntn, Alt_Fntn, so at least BM> four rows of information on about a half-inch strip of plastic or BM> cardboard. NB> Now that's getting complicated.... ;) It was! Even back when WordPerfect was on a 5¬" floppy it had a lot of options! BM>>>>> ... Early to bed and early to rise is first in the bathroom. NB>>>>> Only works when no one is getting up in the middle of the night NB>>>>> for their bathroom stumbles... BM>>>> Obviously that tagline was written by someone under 50! NB>>>> Or had more than one teenage child.... BM>>> I remember setting my alarm clock for five minutes later so I didn't BM>>> have to wait for the girls to get out of the bathroom. (So we added BM>>> the Master Bedroom suite _after_ they moved out -- uh-huh!! ) NB>>> Interesting timing, to be sure... ;) We have two baths, one upstairs NB>>> and one down... upstairs is just a tub, down is just a shower... both NB>>> with toilet and sink... BM>> The reverse here, though part may be due to this house originally had BM>> just one bathroom. First floor had a tub only originally. NB>> Ours had the upstairs bathroom first, and the downstairs was added in NB>> the '50s (before our time) by taking over the pantry off the kitchen.. NB>> So the upstairs had the tub.... and there was only room for a standup NB>> shower downstairs.... :) BM> Friend's aunt's place was older but I don't think old-old and had the BM> only bathroom on the second floor. Fairly spacious - probably 12x12' BM> and had a closet. We sort of tried to figure out where a half-bath BM> could go on the first floor for her but never did. NB> My neighbor ended up getting a powder room put into what had been NB> the under the stairs coat closet, just enough room for a toilet NB> and small sink... Her house was built early 1900's, ours was NB> built 1900.... My uncle had an older house when I was really young (~8) and I vaguely recall a really tiny bathroom (just toilet and sink - half-bath, like I knew that term then!) and it was tiny even by my standards (I was eight or so, so small). BM>> Upstairs is just a shower as we don't take baths. Space is about as BM>> big as a tub would take if not a little larger. NB>> Yours both sound more modern than either of ours... ;) BM> We thought a claw-foot tub would look nice/different but as we got old BM> the stepping-up-and-over to get in (and out) is more of a bother! BM> ...Get one of those pet stairways?! NB> They do make assistive steps for people... I've seen them in NB> catalogs... :) Hopefully for both sides! 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