Subj : Re: moving or not was: C To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Tue Mar 10 2020 18:40:36 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Mar-2020 11:51 <=- BM>> ...Did remind me: when working at BM>> the store needed to create a sign on the Sign Machine. Let's say the BM>> price portion was 89›. Every one would have used 0.89 because that was BM>> the format on the template. I decided to try if ALT_155 would work - BM>> yup! (Didn't tell the others I used a different template!) NB>> Let them just be in awe of your superior knowledge... ;) BM> And that's more or less useful! LIS some time back, there were BM> times when they'd (management) assign me to walk with a repairman BM> because I knew where stuff was, or could figure stuff out. Yup.... NB>>> At one point, I'd copied a few symbols to a textfile that I could NB>>> access if needed... now I forget what I called it... BM>> BTDT!! NB>>> But part of the problem is that I don't really need them all that NB>>> often... BM>> Probably just recreate the text file including the symbols you BM>> currently use -- and when you save it as SYMBOLS.TXT you'll find that's BM>> what you called the original file!! NB>> Just dropped to dos and did a quick look... didn't find that one... NB>> and did a bit of a lookaround and didn't find anything likely at NB>> all... not a clue what I called it... maybe I decided I didn't really NB>> need it and deleted it.... BM> That's a possibility too - or accidentally got deleted with a purge BM> session to make room on the hard drive. Unless you have some sort of BM> indexing utility which looks in text files to build a search catalogue BM> then you might never find it. (Think Google or Bing search engine but BM> for your personal computer.) I've heard of such... dunno if I do have such on this computer, but things are pretty well organized anyway... there's only one directory it would have been in, and after "ls *.txt" failed to find it, I looked at the entire list... :) And then checked a few other directories just in case I'd moved it (highly unlikely, though)... "whereis" would have turned it up anywhere on the same drive D, but I didn't go quite that far.... ;) But those are only looking for the file names, not checking inside the files themselves... BM>>> Why there are some odd occurrances when people switch from one piece BM>>> of software to another! NB>>> Yup, the magic spells aren't always identical from one to the NB>>> other... :) BM>> Nope: as I indicated in other messages back when I was selling BM>> computers Apple had some sort of 'rule' in effect for their software BM>> and for third-party vendors where certain keys always had the same BM>> function: F1 = Help, F9 = Volume Down, F10 = Volume Up (as examples, BM>> don't know if accurate representations). NB>> F1 is pretty standard for Help, across the board... BM> True; not the best example for randomized Function key assignments. The other two, though, do tend to be more specialized depending on the software.... My genealogy program uses the F9 for repeating an entry, F10 for accepting a screen... or finishing and exiting the program, depending on where one is.... Emacs, f9 is save file, f10 is exit emacs.... BM>> Tends to make sense as easier when switching from one piece of software BM>> to another. OTOH for the basic functions makes sense but may become BM>> restrictive when one gets in to extended functions. NB>> That's where one has f1 and F1, or more likely F1 and Shift-F1... :) NB>> And gets another four from adding F11 and F12.... ;) BM> My first computer was a DEC Rainbow 100 and it had a shallow drawer BM> along the top, above the function keys (which I think went to F19), BM> with a clear cover. Many utilities came with a long strip of plastic BM> with the function of the function keys printed on it -- place in the BM> well. Sometimes needed a magnifying glass as the function keys not only BM> has no-shift and shift_Function, but Ctrl_Fntn, Alt_Fntn, so at least BM> four rows of information on about a half-inch strip of plastic or BM> cardboard. Now that's getting complicated.... ;) BM>>>>> ... Early to bed and early to rise is first in the bathroom. NB>>>>> Only works when no one is getting up in the middle of the night NB>>>>> for their bathroom stumbles... BM>>>> Obviously that tagline was written by someone under 50! NB>>>> Or had more than one teenage child.... BM>>> I remember setting my alarm clock for five minutes later so I didn't BM>>> have to wait for the girls to get out of the bathroom. (So we added BM>>> the Master Bedroom suite _after_ they moved out -- uh-huh!! ) NB>>> Interesting timing, to be sure... ;) We have two baths, one upstairs NB>>> and one down... upstairs is just a tub, down is just a shower... both NB>>> with toilet and sink... BM>> The reverse here, though part may be due to this house originally had BM>> just one bathroom. First floor had a tub only originally. NB>> Ours had the upstairs bathroom first, and the downstairs was added in NB>> the '50s (before our time) by taking over the pantry off the kitchen.. NB>> So the upstairs had the tub.... and there was only room for a standup NB>> shower downstairs.... :) BM> Friend's aunt's place was older but I don't think old-old and had the BM> only bathroom on the second floor. Fairly spacious - probably 12x12' BM> and had a closet. We sort of tried to figure out where a half-bath BM> could go on the first floor for her but never did. My neighbor ended up getting a powder room put into what had been the under the stairs coat closet, just enough room for a toilet and small sink... Her house was built early 1900's, ours was built 1900.... BM>> Had the dangle-hose thing to create a shower. Eventually switched to BM>> an external (exposed) pipe ==> replace the spout with one with BM>> diverter and add the shower head kit. (Oddly the shower pipe was a BM>> different diameter than the screw hole in the diverter - the plumbing BM>> guy also couldn't believe it.) Eventually had the bathroom redone BM>> and the plumbing redone to be inside the wall. NB>> We talked about doing something to turn the tub into a tub/shower, NB>> but never did... it's one of those old clawfoot tubs, so not all that NB>> conducive... :) BM> IIRC the adapter we got was for adding a shower to a clawfoot or free- BM> standing tub. Basically a long upside-down J pipe; LIS the pipe BM> didn't connect directly/properly to our tub but it was a built-in tub, BM> so different hardware. Makes sense... BM>> Upstairs is just a shower as we don't take baths. Space is about as BM>> big as a tub would take if not a little larger. NB>> Yours both sound more modern than either of ours... ;) BM> We thought a claw-foot tub would look nice/different but as we got old BM> the stepping-up-and-over to get in (and out) is more of a bother! BM> ...Get one of those pet stairways?! They do make assistive steps for people... I've seen them in catalogs... :) ttyl neb .... 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