Subj : moving or not was: C To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Thu Mar 05 2020 11:51:00 Hi Nancy! BM> ...Did remind me: when working at BM> the store needed to create a sign on the Sign Machine. Let's say the BM> price portion was 89›. Every one would have used 0.89 because that was BM> the format on the template. I decided to try if ALT_155 would work - BM> yup! (Didn't tell the others I used a different template!) NB> Let them just be in awe of your superior knowledge... ;) And that's more or less useful! LIS some time back, there were times when they'd (management) assign me to walk with a repairman because I knew where stuff was, or could figure stuff out. NB>>> I generally just write the word 'cents'.... It shows it fine, and if NB>>> I do a copy-paste, I can make it happen... › (that was [Esc space] NB>>> (mark) at the sign, [Esc W] (cut) just after the sign, and then Ctrl-Y NB>>> to copy it into the message at that point)... But I can't directly NB>>> make that sign.... So the sign itself is valid in this editor, just NB>>> not the keystrokes to make it... BM>> Right: I've done that also -- and sometimes easier to copy in than BM>> find the character in the tables. OK, that's not phrased right: I have BM>> a sheet with the unicode codes for frequently used characters; there is BM>> an electronic version, so I could copy and paste the character instead BM>> of using the unicode. NB>> At one point, I'd copied a few symbols to a textfile that I could NB>> access if needed... now I forget what I called it... BM> BTDT!! NB>> But part of the problem is that I don't really need them all that NB>> often... BM> Probably just recreate the text file including the symbols you BM> currently use -- and when you save it as SYMBOLS.TXT you'll find that's BM> what you called the original file!! NB> Just dropped to dos and did a quick look... didn't find that NB> one... and did a bit of a lookaround and didn't find anything NB> likely at all... not a clue what I called it... maybe I decided I NB> didn't really need it and deleted it.... That's a possibility too - or accidentally got deleted with a purge session to make room on the hard drive. Unless you have some sort of indexing utility which looks in text files to build a search catalogue then you might never find it. (Think Google or Bing search engin but for your personal coputer.) BM>>> ...Control_G put my LA50 dot matrix printer in BM>>> graphics mode -- found that when someone used it in a tagline: BM>>> printing out his message was fine but if I needed to print a second BM>>> message it came out as garbage. Not recalling what CTRL_G displays; BM>>> found it puts up the Find (Search) task bar in Firefox, thought was BM>>> just CTRL_F! ...Not finding what symbol his CTRL_G created. NB>>> In my editor, Ctrl-G aborts whatever command you just (probably NB>>> erroneously) entered... like if I were to do a Ctrl-U, it puts up NB>>> Arg: 4 which would repeat whatever I was about to paste in 4 times... NB>>> so if I meant to do the Ctrl-Y and got that instead, I'd quick do the NB>>> Ctrl-G, and then do the proper paste... Ctrl-F does do a search NB>>> in browse for me, I don't think it does anything here in Emacs... :) BM>> Why there are some odd occurrances when people switch from one piece BM>> of software to another! NB>> Yup, the magic spells aren't always identical from one to the NB>> other... :) BM> Nope: as I indicated in other messages back when I was selling BM> computers Apple had some sort of 'rule' in effect for their software BM> and for third- party vendors where certain keys always had the same BM> function: F1 = Help, F9 = Volume Down, F10 = Volume Up (as examples, BM> don't know if accurate representations). NB> F1 is pretty standard for Help, across the board... True; not the best example for randomized Function key assignments. BM> Tends to make sense as easier when switching from one piece of software BM> to another. OTOH for the basic functions makes sense but may become BM> restrictive when one gets in to extended functions. NB> That's where one has f1 and F1, or more likely F1 and Shift-F1... NB> :) And gets another four from adding F11 and F12.... ;) My first computer was a DEC Rainbow 100 and it had a shallow drawer along the top, above the function keys (which I think went to F19), with a clear cover. Many utilties came with a long strip of plastic with the function of the function keys printed on it -- place in the well. Sometimes needed a magnifying glass as the function keys not only has no-shift and shift_Function, but Ctrl_Fntn, Alt_Fntn, so at least for rows of information on about a half-inch strip of plastic or cardboard. BM>>>> ... Early to bed and early to rise is first in the bathroom. NB>>>> Only works when no one is getting up in the middle of the night NB>>>> for their bathroom stumbles... BM>>> Obviously that tagline was written by someone under 50! NB>>> Or had more than one teenage child.... BM>> I remember setting my alarm clock for five minutes later so I didn't BM>> have to wait for the girls to get out of the bathroom. (So we added BM>> the Master Bedroom suite _after_ they moved out -- uh-huh!! ) NB>> Interesting timing, to be sure... ;) We have two baths, one upstairs NB>> and one down... upstairs is just a tub, down is just a shower... both NB>> with toilet and sink... BM> The reverse here, though part may be due to this house originally had BM> just one bathroom. First floor had a tub only originally. NB> Ours had the upstairs bathroom first, and the downstairs was NB> added in the '50s (before our time) by taking over the pantry off NB> the kitchen... So the upstairs had the tub.... and there was only NB> room for a standup shower downstairs.... :) Friend's aunt's place was older but I don't think old-old and had the only bathroom on the second floor. Fairly spacious - probably 12x12' and had a closet. We sort of tried to figure out where a half-bath could go on the first floor for her but never did. BM> Had the dangle-hose thing to create a shower. Eventually switched to BM> an external (exposed) pipe ==> replace the spout with one with BM> diverter and add the shower head kit. (Oddly the shower pipe was a BM> different diameter than the screw hole in the diverter - the plumbing BM> guy also couldn't believe it.) Eventually had the bathroom redone BM> and the plumbing redone to be inside the wall. NB> We talked about doing something to turn the tub into a NB> tub/shower, but never did... it's one of those old clawfoot tubs, NB> so not all that conducive... :) IIRC the adapter we got was for adding a shower to a clawfoot or free- standing tub. Basically a long upside-down J pipe; LIS the pipe didn't connect directly/properly to our tub but it was a built-in tub, so different hardware. BM> Upstairs is just a shower as we don't take baths. Space is about as BM> big as a tub would take if not a little larger. NB> Yours both sound more modern than either of ours... ;) We thought a claw-foot tub would look nice/different but as we got old the stepping-up-and-over to get in (and out) is more of a bother! ....Get one of those pet stairways?! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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