Subj : Health Was: Nuts To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Sun Mar 01 2020 09:06:00 Hi Nancy! BM>>> Originally umbrellas were protection against the sun (umbra); someone BM>>> decided could be used for protection from rain -- at that time were BM>>> made using paper and there was a bit of a problem when the paper got BM>>> water-soaked. Added a layer of wax and lacquer - much better! NB>>> Actually, providing shade (umbra) from the sun... ;) But yes, the NB>>> paper would indeed need some help to keep from being water-soaked NB>>> from rain... :) BM>> Seems like the wax and lacquer would keep the umbrella from folding, BM>> but then maybe it didn't. A collapsing/folding umbrella is probably a BM>> newer option. NB>> Hard to say.... If the wax/lacquer layer was thin enough it might NB>> still fold.... BM> Possibly, though I'm still thinking a high possibilty of cracking. BM> ...Maybe left open. NB> Possibly left open.... Another bit of historial trivia solved by logic! BM> Maybe designed as 'scales', though pictures I've seen seem to indicate BM> not. NB> It might have just partially folded down, too... not folded as NB> tightly as is done now.... That could be too. If used for protection from the Sun would be in almost daily use, though still that little issue about storing at night or even when going inside. NB>>>> Just as well the first store didn't have the battery in stock... NB>>>> you'd've just found out that the battery wasn't the problem after all NB>>>> and it would have been more time and money... ;) Good to get both the NB>>>> annoyances taken care of... :) And to solve the mystery of the locks, NB>>>> etc... ;) BM>>> Yes! Amazing how it all worked out. No idea why the dealer did the BM>>> additional testing on the battery. "Easy" answer is date code on the BM>>> battery but I didn't see one and neither did my friend and he worked BM>>> at a service station years ago. And from what I had read on-line when BM>>> my locks were first starting to act up finding the failed lock module BM>>> was trial and error with the individual modules inside the doors; the BM>>> dealer's 'storyline' on the receipt indicated more pull the connector BM>>> at the main control module. This way seems a lot easier! (The website BM>>> was one specifically for my car's make, model and circa year.) NB>>> Possible that it wasn't the first time he's had that sort of issue NB>>> come into the shop, so was inclined to check that sort of thing out... NB>>> And might also have had some experience with your ghost in the locks NB>>> type of problem before on other cars of a similar vintage.... BM>> Possibly, At the initial discussion after finding the battery was BM>> good but there was a 'phantom draw' he (the service rep) didn't suggest BM>> anything other than asking if I had installed an after-market BM>> something. That's when I suggested the locks, which maybe caused a BM>> light to dawn; definitely something to check (and it was). NB>> Probably was the clue he needed... ;) and not unrelated after all... :) BM> Right. Little bit of electricity (provided by the battery when the BM> engine is off) always being drawn to power the alarm circuit: when the BM> door lock module is working properly minimal draw but when the module BM> started 'acting up' that draw increased and drained the battery. So BM> ended up the 'battery problem' solved my door locks problem (and the BM> slow leak in the tires). NB> The battery was able to draw attention to the actual problems... NB> ;) Lock system was complaining to the other parts I was ignoring him; battery stepped up and said "I'll get his attention!". BM>> And since then no lock oddities, though they didn't always act up. BM>> The car does seem to start easier (fully charged battery), though has BM>> been warmer. There is no voltmeter display so can't go by that. NB>> Well, with the module changed, and no draw off the battery, I'd NB>> expect that you'll have clear sailing now.... :) BM> Oddly it seems like the blinker click (for the turnsignals) is more BM> defined since the repair. Slightly louder, more accentuated. As for BM> clear sailing, yes, should be good for a while! :) NB> The happier battery might account for the blinker click being NB> more defined, too... :) Yes: possible the lock module problem was drawing down the system voltage, or sending static signals one of the computer systems interpreted as cut the voltage output slightly. (The X10-controlled lights around here start doing odd things when the batteries in the master controller get weak. X10 = home automation) LISB4 (I think) if the car had an actual voltmeter display instead of an idiot light I might have noted something wrong. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Flash! Kodak monopolizes convenience store! Film at 7-11 --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .