Subj : Re: Health Was: Nuts To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Sat Feb 29 2020 23:17:48 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 24-Feb-2020 07:48 <=- BM>>> Originally umbrellas were protection against the sun (umbra); someone BM>>> decided could be used for protection from rain -- at that time were BM>>> made using paper and there was a bit of a problem when the paper got BM>>> water-soaked. Added a layer of wax and lacquer - much better! NB>>> Actually, providing shade (umbra) from the sun... ;) But yes, the NB>>> paper would indeed need some help to keep from being water-soaked NB>>> from rain... :) BM>> Seems like the wax and lacquer would keep the umbrella from folding, BM>> but then maybe it didn't. A collapsing/folding umbrella is probably a BM>> newer option. NB>> Hard to say.... If the wax/lacquer layer was thin enough it might NB>> still fold.... BM> Possibly, though I'm still thinking a high possibilty of cracking. BM> ...Maybe left open. Possibly left open.... BM> Maybe designed as 'scales', though pictures I've seen seem to indicate BM> not. It might have just partially folded down, too... not folded as tightly as is done now.... NB>>>> Just as well the first store didn't have the battery in stock... NB>>>> you'd've just found out that the battery wasn't the problem after all NB>>>> and it would have been more time and money... ;) Good to get both the NB>>>> annoyances taken care of... :) And to solve the mystery of the locks, NB>>>> etc... ;) BM>>> Yes! Amazing how it all worked out. No idea why the dealer did the BM>>> additional testing on the battery. "Easy" answer is date code on the BM>>> battery but I didn't see one and neither did my friend and he worked BM>>> at a service station years ago. And from what I had read on-line when BM>>> my locks were first starting to act up finding the failed lock module BM>>> was trial and error with the individual modules inside the doors; the BM>>> dealer's 'storyline' on the receipt indicated more pull the connector BM>>> at the main control module. This way seems a lot easier! (The website BM>>> was one specifically for my car's make, model and circa year.) NB>>> Possible that it wasn't the first time he's had that sort of issue NB>>> come into the shop, so was inclined to check that sort of thing out... NB>>> And might also have had some experience with your ghost in the locks NB>>> type of problem before on other cars of a similar vintage.... BM>> Possibly, At the initial discussion after finding the battery was BM>> good but there was a 'phantom draw' he (the service rep) didn't suggest BM>> anything other than asking if I had installed an after-market BM>> something. That's when I suggested the locks, which maybe caused a BM>> light to dawn; definitely something to check (and it was). NB>> Probably was the clue he needed... ;) and not unrelated after all... :) BM> Right. Little bit of electricity (provided by the battery when the BM> engine is off) always being drawn to power the alarm circuit: when the BM> door lock module is working properly minimal draw but when the module BM> started 'acting up' that draw increased and drained the battery. So BM> ended up the 'battery problem' solved my door locks problem (and the BM> slow leak in the tires). The battery was able to draw attention to the actual problems... ;) BM>> And since then no lock oddities, though they didn't always act up. BM>> The car does seem to start easier (fully charged battery), though has BM>> been warmer. There is no voltmeter display so can't go by that. NB>> Well, with the module changed, and no draw off the battery, I'd NB>> expect that you'll have clear sailing now.... :) BM> Oddly it seems like the blinker click (for the turnsignals) is more BM> defined since the repair. Slightly louder, more accentuated. As for BM> clear sailing, yes, should be good for a while! :) The happier battery might account for the blinker click being more defined, too... :) ttyl neb .... Last Sunday, God defeated Satan again but it went into overtime. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .