Subj : moving or not was: C To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Sun Feb 16 2020 10:06:00 Hi Nancy! NB>>> Oh, I knew that.... It's the actual doing thereof that is the NB>>> issue... Not all of them are workable in my editor... :) BM>> You've been taught well! You might want to try a different editor: BM>> WordPad tends to do some things differently from NotePad. NB>> I'm using MicroEMACS 3.8b for DOS.... works just fine for most of what NB>> I do... And I've been able to cut and paste some high/extended ASCII NB>> characters if I really do need to use them... And I can make the NB>> degree symbol.... ø See...? BM> Same process and can create others. NB> I've tried some others, but haven't been all that successful with NB> them, like the fractions and the cents symbol... I think the NB> degree symbol is just a fluke, actually... BM> Flukes are how some discoveries were found! Here ALT_248 is ø, ALT_155 BM> is ›. ALT 171 and 172 are « ¬, respectively. Whatever key NB> « ¬ Ok, those two also work... but ALT_155 gives '[key not NB> bound]' on the command line and beeps at me.... Well that makes no sense! (ALT_155 is ›, cents sign, sounds like....) The "not bound" error does sort of give a clue: somewhere that key combination isn't listed in the table to create a cents symbol. At this point I couldn't guess where, and it's going to be a Wizard Job -- easy to do, just harder to find. Plus probably not worth it unless you were to use the symbol often. BM> combination gives you the degree symbol should give others, but of BM> course computers tend to like to show us humans who's boss, or at least BM> not passively complying and some keystrokes will be used for other BM> functions, like 'pi' will show up here in the body but in the tagline BM> will do a . NB> So I just tried the ALT_227, and it does give a pi character... NB> but I deleted it just in case it also does the NB> thingy.... (Thinking odd pi works but cents does not.) As for removing the pi symbol, good idea! In taglines, or at least in "DOS Mode Taglines" pi does get interpreted as LF>; as for in the text/message body IIRC sometimes it does and sometimes will, dependant display on the word processor. I think with WordPad and Notepad one will display pi and one will not. ...Control_G put my LA50 dot matrix printer in graphics mode -- found that when someone used it in a tagline: printing out his message was fine but if I needed to print a second message it came out as garbage. Not recalling what CTRL_G displays; found it puts up the Find (Search) task bar in Firefox, thought was just CTRL_F! ....Not finding what symbol his CTRL_G created. BM>> Though sometimes not-quite-as-expected results: the pi character BM>> (ALT_227, or at least for the current mode) will create a BM>> combination. (Carriage return --> back to Column 1, Line Feed --> BM>> drop down one line.) So [pi]r^2 becomes BM>> r^2 -- oops! NB>> Another reason not to stray too far into that territory... BM> Well we know 'Pandora' isn't your middle name! NB> That's for sure... or if it is, it's AFTER she learned her lesson NB> not to be too curious... and released the last bit, Hope, to NB> mitigate things a bit... ;) Hope Hope is able to fix most of those problems! BM> ... Early to bed and early to rise is first in the bathroom. NB> Only works when no one is getting up in the middle of the night NB> for their bathroom stumbles... Obviously that tagline was written by someone under 50! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Is a large cappuccino called a "mug of chino"? --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .