Subj : Re: peeves was: Eagle Cam To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Sun Jan 12 2020 00:51:52 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Jan-2020 09:44 <=- BM>> Yes - don't recall how the pedestrian portion is integrated into the BM>> new bridge but was a major factor in the design, meaning the pedestrian BM>> had to be somehow part of the bridge. NB>> When you travel the new bridge, you might be able to see how they NB>> did it... unless it's at a different level somehow from the NB>> vehicular traffic.... ;) BM> Nope (!) though a physical barrier. According to BM> https://qctimes.com/news/local/story-bettendorf-elevator-will-take-pede BM> strians-to-new-i-/article_ab903f0e-0a9a-11e9-9745-9bf9d4d7a0b9.html BM> The recreational trail - to be separated by vehicular traffic on the BM> bridge by a six-foot-high concrete and steel barrier, and BM> 12-foot-wide shoulder off the main lanes - will reflect the downward BM> slope of the vehicle off-ramps, down to ground level on both ends of BM> the bridge, she said. Guess you won't be able to view it still... :) But they do seem to have put quite a lot of planning into it all.. :) BM> There will be an 8-story elevator to take people from the trails under BM> the bridge to the bridge trail. And that is fancy.... but probably a safer alternative to other ways that it might have been done.... ;) BM> ...Hopefully KONE created the elevator: they have offices and a test BM> site on the Illinois side. They even had to move because their BM> original offices and test building was in the path of the new bridge. Maybe being part of the project was part of the deal... ;) BM>>>> And it seems though a modern traffic project the underplanning BM>>>> mentioned previously for the interstate system did occur: for the 53rd BM>>>> St. shopping district the original four lanes had to be increased. BM>>>> The original access to I-74 made sense but with additional traffic BM>>>> caused traffic backups. NB>>>> Such a surprise... ;) But sometimes it is a little difficult to NB>>>> extrapolate sufficiently.... BM>>> Right. I don't think the overall area was planned to be so big: know BM>>> one housing development was a comfortable distance away from the BM>>> original stores to allow for business area expansion but now they're BM>>> surrounded. NB>>> Sounds pretty typical... :) BM>> Yes. It's probably one of those overall design issues where if plan BM>> for the way it turned out it would not have turned out that way. I BM>> don't think it was underplanned. Do the best with what happened. NB>> Some things just don't work out exactly as thought out... always NB>> something not considered, or totally off the horizon until much NB>> later.... :) BM> Right. Guessing from glances of construction landscaping I would BM> guess a little of underplanning and some preplanning. Thinking of one BM> an exit from I-74 to 53rd St (major street of the new shopping/medical BM> development) additional turn lanes were needed but there was plenty of BM> available space. OTOH quite a few blocks away a widening of 53rd St BM> was required and the space between the street and the parking lot below BM> is crowded: tall retaining wall where a grassy slope was. So the one expansion was pretty obviously planned for... but the other, maybe they were just hoping not to have to do it, given the space there at the time.... when it became necessary it was a bigger deal... :) NB>>> Might be variable with the specific end product... never paid that NB>>> much attention to brewing... or to making wine or spirits, for that NB>>> matter... BM>> Apparently profitable as a lot have popped up over the years, and BM>> continue. ...At the store we has sold an at-home beer brewing kit BM>> during Christmas. Basically a big plastic jug, about the size one BM>> finds on a bottled water dispenser, and soup-can sized containers of BM>> probably a starter 'sludge'. (Hmm: sounds like an overgrown yogurt BM>> maker!) Were popular as always sold out. NB>> Maybe not so much profitable as self-fulfilling... satisfies the NB>> creative urge... and the by-product could be of some profit as well, NB>> if one is making a decent product that others also enjoy... :) BM> A home brewing hobby expanded. And must be somewhat profitable as BM> quite a few microbreweries in the area, some as bars and some as bed BM> and breakfasts. Or at least there are a number of people that decided to give it a try... It is, to be sure, a fashionable thing at the moment... ;) BM>>>> Waiting to be added to the couple minute interview years and years BM>>>> ago when I was booking a flight to visit my parents. NB>>>> Oh, in that case, you've already had your time in the sun... BM>>> So nothing to look forward to? NB>>> Dunno... I guess some people do get more than just one chance... ;) BM>> Not sure if that's helpful or not: I've been on TV twice. NB>> Ah... experience.... Maybe that will help your chances... ;) BM> Then I'll have to join the Screen Actors Guild! ...Follow in the BM> steps of Ronald Reagan? He was on-air at WOC-AM here. Was that before he became an actor....? :) BM>>> There's a commercial for a local retirement/light nursing care BM>>> facility; the usual 'happy shots' of the residents playfully BM>>> exercising, small hobby meetings, etc., etc. One shot of an older BM>>> couple: (he) "I like because" statement. (she) "No, it's because of BM>>> the shopping trips!" (he, annoyed) "Have it your way!" (off-camera BM>>> laughter). Not sure if this is a goof/outtake they decided to use but BM>>> it is rather good. :) NB>>> Might well have been scripted that way... ;) BM>> Possibly. More memorable because appears to be a spur-of-the-moment BM>> comment. NB>> And makes them seem more like a real couple that live there rather NB>> than just actors brought in for the commercial.... ;) BM> I'm thinking they are actual residents. Of course, the actors would BM> want to make the viewer think so! They probably are actual residents... but still could have been slightly scripted to make sure that viewers would see them that way... :) NB>> ... Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it NB>> himself. BM> Snap those fingers and the job is magically done! Or at least he expects that to be the case.... ttyl neb .... He who hesitates is trampled by the mob. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .