Subj : Re: moving or not To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Tue Dec 31 2019 18:10:12 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Dec-2019 09:39 <=- BM>> agreement: sure, the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate BM>> a lifetime of eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the BM>> study and it becomes 'eating causes '. Again, I'm not BM>> saying they're wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a BM>> lot worse than they really are. NB>> I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add to NB>> them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on saccherine NB>> causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed cause major NB>> problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it totally... BM> I'm with you: seems everything causes something. I'm not making light BM> of the studies, and I think we can eat, do and not do lifestyle BM> options, etc., to minimize the chances of getting sick/a disease. I BM> think some of the diseases are occurring just because humans are living BM> longer. That last is quite possible... Of course, genetics plays into both the living longer and how one's body reacts to the various factors.... BM> OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed BM> out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior BM> were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily BM> available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.). There could be some of that... there's also the part where people tend to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the younger tend to seem even taller in comparison... :) BM> As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would BM> too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods BM> which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a BM> generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to BM> do anything to find the commonality and so the source. When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to figure out the source more easily... :) NB>>> As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once NB>>> had.... ;) BM>> And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories BM>> as quickly as when was younger. NB>> There's a little of that, too... but not something that really plays NB>> into our thinking... mostly it's just that our eating habits have NB>> shifted.... :) BM> If it makes more sense why not? In my book there's nothing to prevent BM> one from having cereal for the evening meal and meatloaf for the one BM> first thing in the morning. All a matter of convenience and probably BM> more so appetite. Exactly. :) BM>> I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in BM>> general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do BM>> very little cooking as don't have the opportunity. NB>> If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to NB>> make the time and opportunity... :) BM> I'm making dinner! BM> Where are we going? BM> No, I'm _making_ dinner. BM> And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;) NB>>> Oatmeal here would have raisins cooked into it, and topped with NB>>> brown sugar and cinnamon.... probably a pat of butter as well, and NB>>> often with milk... Comfort food from my childhood... BM>> I have instant oatmeal -- partially because I want it now and BM>> partially because I'm the only one eating it. Add a bunch of raisins BM>> (it's probably closer to three raisins per spoonful), boil the water -- BM>> this plumps up the raisins a bit as well as warms them up, pour in a BM>> pouch of a flavoured oatmeal (but not the 'cream and' option as too BM>> sweet), add a pour of the instant oatmeal from the canister BM>> (unflavoured) because I want more than just the pouchworth and cuts the BM>> flavour. NB>> You can do the same thing, in about the same time, or maybe even less, NB>> by putting the water, raisins and regular oatmeal in a bowl in the NB>> microwave... that's how I do it now... :) BM> Um, I'm trying to keep my stove skills intact?! (see earlier ) Then you might as well be making oatmeal from the regular or steel-cut oats... ;) BM>> Rarely will I add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never BM>> tried - parents didn't, don't recall any friends having it that way BM>> when growing up but then not there for breakfast. NB>> It's probably a Scottish thing... milk on the oat porridge.... :) BM> Possibly - a little surprised Dad didn't (his mother was Scottish). BM> Seems he usually had cereal or peanut butter toast. Maybe he'd had too much oatmeal forced on him growing up....?? NB>>> I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is NB>>> even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that NB>>> it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk... BM>> The additives keep getting worse! NB>> Actually, the trend has turned some... Fewer things have additives NB>> than it had been getting to be... and it can be a point of pride (and NB>> advertising) that there are no additives.... BM> True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My BM> grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the BM> items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured BM> Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients BM> are. If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading the labels like I have to... ;) BM> And there is some shopping bias on this side: both of us shop, BM> generally independently, and generally specific areas of items like BM> cottage cheese but never the eggs unless ask because they're on sale. BM> Though occasionally we both cross over now we have two pints of sour BM> cream! We shop together, so that's less likely to happen... :) BM>>> I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm BM>>> the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not, BM>>> and her tastes vary periodically. NB>>> So, have you bought any this season yet...? BM>> Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December BM>> rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my BM>> Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll BM>> probably open his rusty coin purse. NB>> As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be able NB>> to just override him at this point.... BM> Yup: a later post reported the purchase. Don't recall if I mentioned BM> but the Scottish Guy was even happy at the seasonal splurge: if I spent BM> a dollar extra I could get twice as much! There you go... everybody happy... ;) My niece made up some eggnog for our family celebration... very frothy, and quite nice.... She had some that was plain, and some that she'd added vodka to... Some people took the plain and added some rum to it... that was even better... ;) NB>>>> A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :) BM>>> And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines! NB>>> Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than NB>>> taglines have existed.... BM>> Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit! NB>> I think BlueWave's is 72 (tho I'd have to check to be sure), and NB>> Multimail's limit is a little longer.... BM> Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets BM> were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's BM> been a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my BM> measurement. When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space for the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the end of it... At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see below for an example)... BM> ... I came up with a great tagline, but it wouldn't fit! :( That's when one has to use one's editorial skills... ttyl neb .... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on pe --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .