Subj : moving or not To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Sat Dec 21 2019 09:39:00 Hi Nancy! BM> Will be shovelling a little over an inch of 'chance of flurries' later BM> this morning: weather forecast was for a trace of snow but no BM> accumulation. They were right about the cold period though: didn't BM> get above 21-22ø yesterday and wind chill was about half that. Similar BM> for today. NB> We've been having similar chills... and less... and this morning NB> woke up to about an inch of "mostly cloudy", that was supposed to NB> be only a skim of accumulation... at least it's light and NB> fluffy... :) Good news on the light and fluffy variety: generally easier to shovel out of the way. It hit 49ø here yesterday and there's still the sections of yards with snow. Spotty, but still mostly clovered. Today and tomorrow supposed to get into the lower 50's (normal temp's are in the lower 30's) so might not be any snow left except where piled by sidewalks, driveways and roads. NB>>> Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to be NB>>> cancer-producing.... BM>> Unfortunately. And not to minimize the seriousness it seems BM>> everything is cancer-causing. Lots of things people can do (like BM>> eating healthy) and not do (like smoking) to minimize. NB>> True, and part of the picture is that some things are only truly NB>> harmful when in ridiculously large quantities.... but I tend to avoid NB>> the char most of the time anyway... since it's not my favorite NB>> taste... :) BM> I sort of like it but not in excess: I don't want to be eating BM> charcoal. As for the 'ridiculously large quantities', definite BM> agreement: sure, the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate BM> a lifetime of eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the BM> study and it becomes 'eating causes '. Again, I'm not BM> saying they're wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a BM> lot worse than they really are. NB> I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add NB> to them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on NB> saccherine causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed NB> cause major problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it NB> totally... I'm with you: seems everything causes something. I'm not making light of the studies, and I think we can eat, do and not do lifestyle options, etc., to minimize the chances of getting sick/a disease. I thnk some of the diseases are occurring just because humans are living longer. OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.). As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to do anything to find the commonality and so the source. NB>>> And when we eat out, that will be NB>>> our meal for the day... Just aren't hungry for another meal later if NB>>> it was lunch, so will snack to have food with evening meds.... And if NB>>> it's supper/dinner, we won't have had lunch earlier.... :) BM>> Yes, we tend to do similar: eat lighter on either side of the huge BM>> meal, effectively to balance out. NB>> As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once NB>> had.... ;) BM> And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories BM> as quickly as when was younger. NB> There's a little of that, too... but not something that really NB> plays into our thinking... mostly it's just that our eating NB> habits have shifted.... :) If it makes more sense why not? In my book there's nothing to prevent one from having cereal for the evening meal and meatloaf for the one first thing in the morning. All a matter of convenience and probably more so appetite. NB>>> And just enjoy the taste of the fish itself... ;) BM>> Have done that also: partially to have a change of flavour of the same BM>> main item, partially because sometimes I feel like tartar sauce, BM>> sometimes lemon, and sometimes plain. Basically all taste. NB>> I'll sometimes mix up a simple tartar sauce with mayo and pickle NB>> relishes... usually have both sweet and dill on hand... and NB>> currently also have a little bottle of capers in the fridge, so NB>> might toss in some of those as well... :) We use that more with NB>> the breaded fish, shrimp or clams than with plain fish or shrimp... BM> Yours probably tasted better than my squirt of store-bought tartar BM> sauce I had on my fish sticks yesterday! NB> Poosibly... depends on what one's taste buds expect... :) Mine weren't expecting much! BM>>> Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal BM>>> automatically -- just habit. NB>>> Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is... :) BM>> Ummm, oatmeal. At the restaurant topped with three blueberries, a BM>> raspberry, and a sprig of rosemary. [Would that one work?] NB>> It might... ;) The rosemary might be over the top a bit, though... ;) BM> I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in BM> general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do BM> very little cooking as don't have the opportunity. NB> If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has NB> to make the time and opportunity... :) I'm making dinner! Where are we going? No, I'm _making_ dinner. BM>> At home: three raisins, ... a cube of Swiss and BM>> how'd that dust bunny get in there?! NB>> No need to get desperate... Oatmeal here would have raisins cooked NB>> into it, and topped with brown sugar and cinnamon.... probably a pat NB>> of butter as well, and often with milk... Comfort food from my NB>> childhood... BM> I have instant oatmeal -- partially because I want it now and BM> partially because I'm the only one eating it. Add a bunch of raisins BM> (it's probably closer to three raisins per spoonful), boil the water -- BM> this plumps up the raisins a bit as well as warms them up, pour in a BM> pouch of a flavoured oatmeal (but not the 'cream and' option as too BM> sweet), add a pour of the instant oatmeal from the canister BM> (unflavoured) because I want more than just the pouchworth and cuts the BM> flavour. NB> You can do the same thing, in about the same time, or maybe even NB> less, by putting the water, raisins and regular oatmeal in a bowl NB> in the microwave... that's how I do it now... :) Um, I'm trying to keep my stove skills intact?! (see earlier ) BM> Rarely will I add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never BM> tried - parents didn't, don't recall any friends having it that way BM> when growing up but then not there for breakfast. NB> It's probably a Scottish thing... milk on the oat porridge.... :) Possibly - a little surprised Dad didn't (his mother was Scottish). Seems he usually had cereal or peanut butter toast. BM>>> And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?! NB>>> Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At one NB>>> point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added to milk NB>>> list... that may have changed by now... BM>> I had not heard previously about adding coconut oil to milk but didn't BM>> come as a huge surprise. Know cow's milk isn't the the best available BM>> for humans -- forgot what was most comparable -- so possibly adding BM>> coconut oil helped. NB>> I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is NB>> even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that NB>> it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk... BM> The additives keep getting worse! NB> Actually, the trend has turned some... Fewer things have NB> additives than it had been getting to be... and it can be a point NB> of pride (and advertising) that there are no additives.... True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients are. And there is some shopping bias on this side: both of us shop, generally independently, and generally specific areas of items like cottage cheese but never the eggs unless ask because they're on sale. Though occasionally we both cross over now we have two pints of sour cream! NB>>>> A regional milk cooperative (Upstate Milk) sells various flavored NB>>>> milks in plastic pint bottles.... chocolate, mocha, strawberry, NB>>>> cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such as mint chocolate chip, NB>>>> eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc... BM>>> I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm BM>>> not all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery BM>>> trips -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at BM>>> least the first of December to make it a little more special. NB>>> Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree with NB>>> me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in small NB>>> quantities, when made fresh... :) BM>> I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm BM>> the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not, BM>> and her tastes vary periodically. Anyway, back to the egg nog, wonder BM>> if the additive is apple-based or something else? NB>> I doubt it would be apple-based.... might be some sort of NB>> preservative, though.... So, have you bought any this season yet...? BM> Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December BM> rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my BM> Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll BM> probably open his rusty coin purse. NB> As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be NB> able to just override him at this point.... Yup: a later post reported the purchase. Don't recall if I mentioned but the Scottish Guy was even happy at the seasonal splurge: if I spent a dollar extra I could get twice as much! NB>>>> ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam. BM>>> Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline. NB>>> A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :) BM>> And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines! NB>> Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than NB>> taglines have existed.... BM> Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit! NB> I think BlueWave's is 72 (tho I'd have to check to be sure), and NB> Multimail's limit is a little longer.... Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's been a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my measurement. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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