Subj : Re: Stormy To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Thu Dec 19 2019 21:11:26 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-Dec-2019 10:12 <=- NB>>> IIRC, your second story is more a half story, with slanted NB>>> ceilings...? That might play into the air circulation... BM>> Yes: the original house was a story-and-a-half, and the Computer Room BM>> is in the upper level. Heat/air conditioning vent is from the furnace, BM>> over a bit, up, back over and out. Return is via the stairs and while BM>> there is a door at the bottom (first floor) I installed a door stop so BM>> it won't be shut accidentally. And another yes on the slanted ceilings, NB>> That's what I thought I remembered... BM> Good memory! As for the ductwork, I don't think there is excessive BM> heat loss (or gain in summer) as the metal duct is insulated in the BM> Storage Area (where it crosses over a few feet to the wall here). Also BM> seems to have reasonable pressure, thought I do use a fan to help suck BM> the heated/cooled air in. Back to the temperature, seems close to what BM> comes out of the vents on the first floor. I'd be inclined to think that the slanted ceilings would have more of an effect on the heat loss/gain than the ductwork would anyway.... :) NB>>> We have a full attic over our second story, and stairwells at either NB>>> end of the hallway, so the air circulates well, and heat does tend to NB>>> come up here, winter and summer... The attic tends to stay cold in NB>>> winter, and heat up in summer, but we can exhaust the heat in summer, NB>>> so will have the door to the attic open in the warmer months.... BM>> It does tend to warm up on the second floor in summer and get a little BM>> cool in winter -- nature of things. The whole house was re-insulated BM>> several years ago over a two year year period to maximize rebates; the BM>> first year's project seemed to be a lot better than the second year BM>> but nothing's wrong -- just the feeling. AFAIK the second year's BM>> project is fine - done correctly, etc., just ... something but nothing. BM>> And of course the Computer Room was done as part of the second year BM>> project. NB>> The extra insulation would help some, but with the second story being NB>> part attic, it would tend to be more affected by the outdoor temps NB>> than if you had a full attic over to provide another layer so-to-speak NB>> of insulation.... BM> Yes; probably close to the same as what is occurring here: the BM> Computer Room is essentially in an attic, so even though insulated BM> doesn't have the buffer of an attic space. Yup, that's what I was trying to get across... :) BM>>> For now the window air conditioners in the summer and the occasional BM>>> use of the portable heaters in the winter. NB>>> The more primitive version of zoned heating/cooling... ;) BM>> True. May stay that way. NB>> Costs less, and all that... ;) BM> Short term anyway! That would be part of the consideration for zoned BM> HVAC, or a second furnace and air conditioner (probably a heat pump). You mean the cost/benefit for the different options...? NB>>>> Even though it's almost a case of too little too late, I've been NB>>>> appreciating it being lighter earlier in the morning... :) BM>>> I'm liking it also. Lightly considering what it would be like if the BM>>> state or country decided to go with year-round DST instead of standard BM>>> time. I'm thinking the primary thing will be Sun will not be where it BM>>> belongs at noon. Right now I'm still leaning towards a year-round BM>>> standard time. Illinois is trying to pass a measure to go on year- BM>>> round DST; needs federal approval to do so even if the state passes. BM>>> No idea why they decided on 'ahead' rather than 'on time'. NB>>> Either they aren't thinking clearly, or have been brainwashed... NB>>> which might amount to the same thing.... ;) BM>> Knowing Illinois.... Will be interesting getting used to across the BM>> River it's a different time part of the year. NB>> If they indeed do go through with it, and get the approval and all... NB>> I doubt that all the states would go along with it, after all HI and NB>> AZ already are staying strictly on standard time... BM> Right. Even if Illinois (or any other state) passes it still has to BM> be approved by the federal government. Would also seem there should be BM> approval by an international agency: flights (Chicago!) have to be BM> coordinated (though probably GMT plus or minus hours), seems like BM> business hours, though again GMT-based.... Dunno if there would needs be international agency approval.. but it would make for some necessary adjustments... Guess we'll just have to wait and see if it happens, and if so, how.... ;) ttyl neb .... Murphy's Law explains things better than conspiracy theories. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .