Subj : Stormy To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Tue Dec 03 2019 08:59:00 Hi Nancy! NB>> Ran out of time last night for the rest of this set.... so here NB>> we go... BM> When you start nodding while at the keyboard it's time to shuffle off BM> to bed! NB> It was less that as that I needed still to do my bbs route (need NB> to be finished before midnight) and then read my packets... and NB> it was already IIRC getting on close to eleven... after ten, NB> anyway... Late enough one is starting to think of winding down. BM>> on a sweater or maybe one of the electric heaters for a bit -- not BM>> going to increase the temperature downstairs as would be too warm down BM>> there. (Yes, there is a note to check out zoned heating/cooling again BM>> -- in the past not quite workable financially.) NB>> Sweaters and heaters work well enough, but the zoned heating NB>> would be more convenient... :) Here, the upstairs tends to NB>> collect the heat from downstairs, so it works out as it is... :) BM> Here the upstairs _doesn't_ collect the heat: would have figured the BM> "hot air rises" thing would work but it doesn't. Well, probably some BM> but not as one would expect. There is air movement: close the door at BM> the base of the stairs to ajar and one can feel the cool air moving. BM> And yes, the door is open. The Computer Room (upstairs in the BM> original part of the house) has only a vent; the return is gravity BM> feed. Asked: adding a return probably would not make a difference. BM> And yes, there is heat coming out and it is not blocked. Adding a BM> booster fan may make a half-degree difference: over the years they've BM> stopped because of dust getting in the motor and the temperature seems BM> the same; probably more psychological effect. NB> IIRC, your second story is more a half story, with slanted NB> ceilings...? That might play into the air circulation... Yes: the original house was a story-and-a-half, and the Computer Room is in the upper level. Heat/air conditioning vent is from the furnace, over a bit, up, back over and out. Return is via the stairs and while there is a door at the bottom (first floor) I installed a door stop so it won't be shut accidentally. And another yes on the slanted ceilings, NB> We have NB> a full attic over our second story, and stairwells at either end NB> of the hallway, so the air circulates well, and heat does tend to NB> come up here, winter and summer... The attic tends to stay cold NB> in winter, and heat up in summer, but we can exhaust the heat in NB> summer, so will have the door to the attic open in the warmer NB> months.... It does tend to warm up on the second floor in summer and get a little cool in winter -- nature of things. The whole house was re-insulated several years ago over a two year year period to maximize rebates; the first year's project seemed to be a lot better than the second year but nothing's wrong -- just the feeling. AFAIK the second year's project is fine - done correctly, etc., just ... something but nothing. And of course the Computer Room was done as part of the second year project. BM> For now the window air conditioners in the summer and the occasional BM> use of the portable heaters in the winter. NB> The more primitive version of zoned heating/cooling... ;) True. May stay that way. BM>> No, not a good year for colour. Looking out now the leaves look BM>> rather bland-brownish. Some orangish areas, but being overcast with BM>> the snow not a whole lot of colour out there. NB>> We're seeing things all go to drab, here... BM> Yes - definitely 'no colour' this year. Well, some colourization, BM> just nothing one would consider picture-worthy. And no certainty on BM> the Might Be The Burning Bush: think it is because did see some leaves BM> start to turn the reddish colour. Whatever it is it will remain. NB> And maybe you'll have a better indication next year.... :) Sort of hopefully. LIS, the Burning Bush or whatever is where the Burning Bush was will stay, just its 'cow lick' will be trimmed. NB>>> Nah... no point in it.... can't change the weather by complaining, NB>>> so why waste one's energy at it... :) BM>> Right. And no, I didn't plan a picnic so don't have to whine BM>> about that either! NB>> Ah, that's a relief.... BM> No change of plans or no whining?! NB> Both...? ;) That'll work too! :) BM>>> Right now the only advantage I can see to the preference to staying on BM>>> DST (year round) would be it would stay light later into the evening BM>>> -- those on 9-5 jobs, in school, etc., would have a little more BM>>> daylight after work/school. NB>>> Not really.... by the time we get to this part of the year, it's dark NB>>> by about 5 anyway... And there's all that really un-useful light in NB>>> the summertime.... so that kids have to stay up way past bedtime just NB>>> to see fireworks nicely.... BM>> I need to pay a bit better attention to detail answer that one. Know BM>> it's almost dark when eating dinner now; if I'm up here before dinner BM>> almost time to close the blinds, by the time get back up here BM>> definitely time to close. NB>> So, probably should close them just before you go down to dinner... :) NB>> Even though it's almost a case of too little too late, I've been NB>> appreciating it being lighter earlier in the morning... :) BM> I'm liking it also. Lightly considering what it would be like if the BM> state or country decided to go with year-round DST instead of standard BM> time. I'm thinking the primary thing will be Sun will not be where it BM> belongs at noon. Right now I'm still leaning towards a year-round BM> standard time. Illinois is trying to pass a measure to go on year- BM> round DST; needs federal approval to do so even if the state passes. BM> No idea why they decided on 'ahead' rather than 'on time'. NB> Either they aren't thinking clearly, or have been brainwashed... NB> which might amount to the same thing.... ;) Knowing Illinois.... Will be interesting getting used to across the River it's a different time part of the year. NB> ... Sorry, I missed the part after "Now listen closely". Hmmm?! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... If it weren't for STRESS I'd have no energy at all. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .