Subj : Re: Stormy To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Mon Dec 02 2019 17:12:16 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Nov-2019 07:54 <=- NB>> Ran out of time last night for the rest of this set.... so here NB>> we go... BM> When you start nodding while at the keyboard it's time to shuffle off BM> to bed! It was less that as that I needed still to do my bbs route (need to be finished before midnight) and then read my packets... and it was already IIRC getting on close to eleven... after ten, anyway... BM>> on a sweater or maybe one of the electric heaters for a bit -- not BM>> going to increase the temperature downstairs as would be too warm down BM>> there. (Yes, there is a note to check out zoned heating/cooling again BM>> -- in the past not quite workable financially.) NB>> Sweaters and heaters work well enough, but the zoned heating NB>> would be more convenient... :) Here, the upstairs tends to NB>> collect the heat from downstairs, so it works out as it is... :) BM> Here the upstairs _doesn't_ collect the heat: would have figured the BM> "hot air rises" thing would work but it doesn't. Well, probably some BM> but not as one would expect. There is air movement: close the door at BM> the base of the stairs to ajar and one can feel the cool air moving. BM> And yes, the door is open. The Computer Room (upstairs in the BM> original part of the house) has only a vent; the return is gravity BM> feed. Asked: adding a return probably would not make a difference. BM> And yes, there is heat coming out and it is not blocked. Adding a BM> booster fan may make a half-degree difference: over the years they've BM> stopped because of dust getting in the motor and the temperature seems BM> the same; probably more psychological effect. IIRC, your second story is more a half story, with slanted ceilings...? That might play into the air circulation... We have a full attic over our second story, and stairwells at either end of the hallway, so the air circulates well, and heat does tend to come up here, winter and summer... The attic tends to stay cold in winter, and heat up in summer, but we can exhaust the heat in summer, so will have the door to the attic open in the warmer months.... BM> For now the window air conditioners in the summer and the occasional BM> use of the portable heaters in the winter. The more primitive version of zoned heating/cooling... ;) NB>> Exactly. Maybe have an indoor picnic... or go on a different NB>> outing (like to a museum).... or just stay home and work on some NB>> clamoring project.... BM> Is that why it's so noisy here?! Could be... BM>> No, not a good year for colour. Looking out now the leaves look BM>> rather bland-brownish. Some orangish areas, but being overcast with BM>> the snow not a whole lot of colour out there. NB>> We're seeing things all go to drab, here... BM> Yes - definitely 'no colour' this year. Well, some colourization, BM> just nothing one would consider picture-worthy. And no certainty on BM> the Might Be The Burning Bush: think it is because did see some leaves BM> start to turn the reddish colour. Whatever it is it will remain. And maybe you'll have a better indication next year.... :) BM>> Burning Bush here, or whatever it is, will be left. In the Spring BM>> will be shaped a bit: there's a 'cow lick' on top which when the BM>> portion that died was alive blended in; now there's a big bush with an BM>> odd-looking branch sticking out the top. NB>> Come spring, it should be easy enough to take care of that.... BM> Yup: a few cuts with the lopper and done. Probably take longer to get BM> the step ladder out and positioned than the trim job. Probably... :) NB>>> Nah... no point in it.... can't change the weather by complaining, NB>>> so why waste one's energy at it... :) BM>> Right. And no, I didn't plan a picnic so don't have to whine BM>> about that either! NB>> Ah, that's a relief.... BM> No change of plans or no whining?! Both...? ;) BM>>> Right now the only advantage I can see to the preference to staying on BM>>> DST (year round) would be it would stay light later into the evening BM>>> -- those on 9-5 jobs, in school, etc., would have a little more BM>>> daylight after work/school. NB>>> Not really.... by the time we get to this part of the year, it's dark NB>>> by about 5 anyway... And there's all that really un-useful light in NB>>> the summertime.... so that kids have to stay up way past bedtime just NB>>> to see fireworks nicely.... BM>> I need to pay a bit better attention to detail answer that one. Know BM>> it's almost dark when eating dinner now; if I'm up here before dinner BM>> almost time to close the blinds, by the time get back up here BM>> definitely time to close. NB>> So, probably should close them just before you go down to dinner... :) NB>> Even though it's almost a case of too little too late, I've been NB>> appreciating it being lighter earlier in the morning... :) BM> I'm liking it also. Lightly considering what it would be like if the BM> state or country decided to go with year-round DST instead of standard BM> time. I'm thinking the primary thing will be Sun will not be where it BM> belongs at noon. Right now I'm still leaning towards a year-round BM> standard time. Illinois is trying to pass a measure to go on year- BM> round DST; needs federal approval to do so even if the state passes. BM> No idea why they decided on 'ahead' rather than 'on time'. Either they aren't thinking clearly, or have been brainwashed... which might amount to the same thing.... ;) ttyl neb .... Sorry, I missed the part after "Now listen closely". --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .