Subj : Eggs! To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Wed Nov 27 2019 09:41:00 Hi Nancy! Happy Thanksgiving! ...That will be tomorrow as I write this, and two weeks ago when you reply. A little breezy here this morning: 30-35 MPH and to 50-55 MPH tonight. Power outages already reported in a couple of rural areas on the Illinois side. BM>>> spots on the shelves. The Great Peeled and Ready-To-Eat Egg Hunt may BM>>> have to continue after the store is done updating - though I am keeping BM>>> my eye out for them and any other interesting-looking and within the BM>>> splurge budget items. NB>>> True, they may well have cut back on some of their choices/inventory NB>>> to make the moves around the store a little easier... and/or not added NB>>> choices until the update is completed... :) BM>> Right: everything has to go somewhere. Two things can not occupy the BM>> same space. NB>> True... :) At least not easily, could be squished together, or NB>> on top of each other... ;) BM> Right: there are possible ways to tightly mingle but so appears BM> occupying the same space. Dad had sometimes used that to remind me BM> about driving. Not due to an accident but a way to avoid them. NB> Which, the not occupying the same exact space...? Or the being NB> able to find spaces to move into, in order to make progress when NB> crowded...? More two cars can not occupy the same space. His thing on making progress when crowded was more be patient on merging into traffic; that was more for pulling out into traffic. Be patient, eventually there wil be a safe opening. BM>> And probably gets a lot more complicated with the legal stuff: heard BM>> the suppliers buy space on the shelves. Probably not only space but BM>> locations. So if they have bought 10' of floor space (rack) can't just BM>> give them 8' and the other 2' to someone else. (I'd suppose there are BM>> clauses to cover remodels, damage to the racks/shelves, etc. Temporary BM>> situations.) NB>> I'd guess it would be more of a rental than an outright buy... but NB>> yes, the vendors would expect to have their allotted space(s)... and NB>> probably that sort of thing would be moved as a block, and possibly NB>> with the vendor involved with the relocation.... BM> "Rental" or "lease" would probably be the more correct term, or at BM> least as far as what us non-grocery types understand. As for the BM> vendor involvment, thinking two ways. One is the temporary reduction BM> in allocation while the moving/remodelling is going on. Other is the BM> physical assistance in moving the product. NB> I wasn't really paying attention when the beverages section at NB> our store got all moved around... dunno about the beer, but the NB> sodas (CocaCola and Pepsi products at least, maybe more) are NB> vendor items... they probably did help with that part of the NB> move.... :) AFAIK the same at Hy-Vee: always see the same people stocking certain products, or at least at specific sections, and wearing some sort of uniform. Would guess when that section of the store gets moved they'll be doing the unstocking and restocking. BM> Thinking how in Produce AFAIK the Hy-Vee staff restocks, moves, etc., BM> the Driscoll berries, Dole salads, etc., but the Frito Lay guy is BM> there daily to restock his brand's chips, so would he be the one BM> doing the move? announcer overvoice> Stay tuned for the next episode to find if BM> Frito Lay guy will move his chips. Will a mysterious Dole man BM> suddenly appear to the Salad House? Will ... GAAAH!!!!> NB> GAAAH, indeed.... That imagination of yours does run NB> wild...! ;) It does seem not to sit around up there being bored! BM> We generally host one and sometimes both of the holiday meals, BM> primarily because we have the Dining Room space, and two ovens (there's BM> one in the eventually-will-be-a-kitchenette in the basement), so a BM> larger turkey. If "an intimate holiday meal experience for two" (darn BM> advertising hooks!) I'll usually get a two-pack of Cornish Game Hens. NB> My two local sisters take turns hosting the family Christmas, NB> they have the space for our large extended family, and the NB> kitchen areas needed... Cozy house filled with libraries and books instead of kitchens and utensils do have advantages! NB>>> I trust you were able to get the new refill before you did run out... BM>> Yes and no. Yes, they did have the refill approved: I had no refills BM>> left, switched medical doctors and the zero refills got overlooked but BM>> not in time for when I was at the pharmacy. A day or two later was BM>> filled but I had other things going on and so stretched what I had on BM>> hand. NB>> At least it worked out ok in the end.... :) BM> Yes. And the third one is ready for tomorrow's shopping. BM> (Pharmacy within Hy-Vee.) ...Actually good thing I checked Monday BM> night: no 'in progress', which seemed odd. Checked a little deeper: BM> all the automatic refills had been turned off! Turned back on, did a BM> request to fill the one I'm almost out of; checked later and saw 'in BM> progress'. Recall that's happened once or twice before over the last BM> few years; always seem to have been associated with a doctor having to BM> be involved. Just keep an eye on things. NB> Guess you'd have to... :) One of these days I might look into NB> that sort of thing for us, the pharmacy does offer it... but so NB> far we're doing fine with the system we're using now... :) As long as the procedure works is the main thing! BM>> She (the lady I was talking to with the hand scanner picking the BM>> on-line shopper's groceries) indicated it was a location app for BM>> employee use only. The customer app doesn't have the locations. Could BM>> be all kinds of guesses as to why their location app wasn't current. NB>> Your reset is probably more extensive, and possibly more in flux NB>> because of the renovations... Possible that Wegmans had planned a lot NB>> of the moves ahead of time, too... I know that their customer app does NB>> show locations usually, so it would have needed updating as well... NB>> not that I've actually used it, but I've seen the blurbs for and about NB>> it... BM> Well, Hy-Vee does have a product locator for customers. Testing: BM> Garlic ==> BM> Aisle side of store near aisle 3 (Spices) BM> Aisle 6 (Spice) BM> Nothing about fresh garlic nor the jar. Not sure what that first BM> descriptor is supposed to mean. NB> Guess it isn't fully implemented yet... ;) And needs a few tweaks. Last week needed to pick up a couple of boxes of stuffing. Saw someone I knew working in a could-be-the-right-aisle- but-probably-not and wanted to say 'hi' anyway; she knew _exactly_ where it was: aisle, side, two sections from the end, about waist-height. Take that, on-line locator!! BM> Swiss cheese ==> BM> Aisle 18 (Cheese) BM> Aisle Deli (International cheese Upc) BM> No idea what a 'Upc' is. ...Wonder if the first "Aisle" is hard-coded BM> in the location lines? The sentence responses tend to make more sense BM> without that word. NB> Could be hard-coded... As to 'Upc', a UPC is a universal product NB> code, but maybe it's instead refering to a stand-alone area for a NB> Cheese Shop... can't make an acronym work, but the thought would NB> work... ;) Or there might be an actual UPC identifier for International Cheeses. Sort of doubt as I think there's supposed to be a code for each specific manufacturer followed by the specific product. OK, Curious Kitty got to stretch: looked up "international cheese upc" and nothing found that makes sense to answer our question. Did find the words but nothing as far as a generic identifier. BM> This is the first time I've played with that portion of their app. BM> Thinking it's a semi-recent addition. NB> Possible... and maybe they are still getting used to it, too... NB> :) That too. BM> As for the degree of remodelling, my Hy-Vee is undergoing a 100% BM> rennovation. Well, not the actual skeleton of the building but just BM> about everything else. NB> I'm sure that you'll be glad when they've concluded their work... NB> hopefully it will be much better organized in the end... :) Some of the people working there will be! I'm not all that ruffled by it. BM>> Yes, I suspect some items I will be searching for. I think where BM>> Hy-Vee currently has their health/energy sections will become a BM>> Starbucks, which is sort of interesting as their in-store restarant BM>> and deli shops is the opposite side (west side of the store vs. east). BM>> Stay tuned! NB>> Now that seems like a waste of space to me... ;) Our store has NB>> it's own coffee area, no need for a commercial extra entity... ;) BM> People like their Starbucks! LIS not an attraction for me, but then I NB> And besides, we have plenty of standalone Starbucks stores around NB> already... but I think some other chain might be housing NB> Starbucks locations around here, too... I hadn't really paid attention until somehow came up in conversation but all the new Hy-Vee stores have a Starbucks -- even the gas stations. BM> don't spend all day at a mall shopping. Sit and lounge?? OK, I have BM> sat, but that was more to adjust a sock or shoe tongue and back on the BM> way. Snack at the pretzel shop? Yes, but only because someone else BM> we were with insisted. NB> Mall shopping is something I tend to avoid nowadays, along with NB> the big box stores.... except for BJ's... I think I've been back to the Mall where I used to work once, maybe twice since I retired three years ago. Well, to shop; they did want to hire me back but the District Guy wasn't going anywhere near what the local management thought would be the offer. And now with the holidaze I'll probably avoid in-person shopping except for groceries. BM> Hy-Vee does have a restaurant area but haven't eaten at that BM> particular one. Have at a different store and quite good. NB> Some of the Wegmans stores have a more formal restaurant area NB> than ours does... ours has lots of options, but they are more NB> sandwiches, soups, hot/cold bar, and some ethnic "bowls" and NB> prepared meals to go... According to the ads 'mine' offers a steak dinner one night of the week, other specials on other nights. BM>> No idea where the health shops will go. Those aisles widths do need BM>> to be expanded. ...Thinking all sorts of possibilities which are too BM>> complicated to try to explain in text. NB>> It appears that part of the shifting in Wegmans was to widen the NB>> aisles a little... the racks themselves have shifted in a lot of NB>> cases, and there are now more of the half-length aisles again... BM> Half-length aisles could be handy! So far haven't seen any at Hy-Vee; BM> Produce does have table and islands, and looks like will expand on BM> that. Will see what the rest of the store does. NB> Time will tell... :) Yup! Last two weeks it looked like nothing much had happened -- a few minor things. Possibly working in the adjacent store to get it ready to move in to. BM>> And most around here are interconnected to keep the traffic flowing BM>> smoothly, so now need to include the equipment in the network. BM>> ...It started off some simple! NB>> And grew like topsy... ;) BM> It sounded good at the beginning! ...If the UPS in the BM> traffic control box just ran the immediate set of lights at flashing BM> (4-way flashing red) would still create a traffic tie-up but I'm BM> thinking no different than if the traffic lights were out completely. BM> So no need for an individual location UPS. Maybe in some locations BM> would make sense to have a backup power source. NB> That does begin to sound like over-thinking again... In any case, NB> motorists need to be educated as to what to do when there is a NB> power outage affecting the lights... :) True, or even don't rely on the lights to tell the other driver what to do. My light is green so the cross light *should be* red. Traffic lights are off or blinking red - should be a four-way stop and take turns. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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