Subj : Re: moving or not was: CFBBS To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Tue Nov 19 2019 22:06:36 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Nov-2019 17:22 <=- BM>> Those bots are getting more observant! ...Was kind of funny: a few BM>> months ago I was doing some 'research' on the web to try to figure BM>> out a problem. Google popped up a suggestion in Russian -- translate BM>> this site? Sure. ...This looks familiar! It was one of my threads on BM>> a U.S. site which had been grabbed by a Russian search engine and BM>> translated! NB>> That's a little different.... if still a little scary... That NB>> would have been on a website of some sort, though, not here in a quiet NB>> personal computer network.... :) BM> In this instance more interesting than scary: my post was on a public BM> website so not expecting any sort of restrictiveness like mostly BM> expected here. I suppose it could also be minorly gratifying that someone thought it useful enough to have translated it into another language.... :) NB>>> But yes, I'm more concerned with something just working, not really NB>>> with how things operate under the surface... :) BM>> The 'Black Box Thinking' is a time-saver! To use something more BM>> everyday, one doesn't have to think about how the electricity was BM>> generated when one flips the wall switch. For the WiFi around here I BM>> don't need to go much beyond whether the 2.4 or the 5 GHz band. NB>> Exactly... and mostly that is all that I need, just the basic magic NB>> spells to make something work... and when it doesn't, then someone NB>> else has to fix it... :) BM> Which isn't a problem: I don't expect myself to comprehend everything BM> so don't expect someone else to know all. ...Well, maybe when I was BM> very young! And even the stuff I know I know I don't know all the BM> details, so I also cast those magic spells. Yup. Which is why Richard has never minded my considering the commands as being magic spells... ;) As long as I show the proper respect for them, that is... BM>> OTOH for the weather station sensor problem I did dig down into what BM>> might be causing interference in the 433 MHz band, finding out about BM>> IoT (Internet of Things), remote reading of power meters, etc., etc., BM>> etc. (Which the further I got into it the more verification I probably BM>> wasn't going to get a solution and so go a different route.) NB>> You knew enough to figure out when it was time to quit... ;) BM> Yes - when the magic spells started turning up dead flowers instead of BM> live rabbits! That could be a good indicator... NB>>> A lot of it is being aware of what does cause issues, and trying to NB>>> avoid those situations where possible... :) And warning doctors and NB>>> such when avoidance isn't totally possible.... BM>> Yes, always nice to be aware and so at least a bit prepared for a BM>> problem. "I might get dizzy" should at least result in a "let's not BM>> have the patient jump out of the chair" consideration. NB>> Or, as in the case of the dentist/hygenist, who keep asking one to NB>> "turn towards me", to know that if I do I'm likely to trigger dizzies, NB>> so I'm not going to be able to, and they need to use a different NB>> position themselves instead.... BM> Right; and like with mine I gently remind her of my gag reflex, and BM> phrase it more to make it my fault and not hers. (Well, it _is_ my BM> fault but she's the one triggering!) Serves as a gentle reminder, BM> shifts the blame away from her, etc. When she triggers my gag-reflex, she notices, and apologizes... ;) BM>>> Yes, there are times when a greater download speed is needed! If we BM>>> did the typical Mediacom (and probably Comcast) commercial of the BM>>> family of five live streaming all at once I'd probably would have BM>>> increased my speed tier long ago. NB>>> Yeah... that's not the sort of usage we do here, fortunately... :) BM>> Generally I don't run into the problem or it doesn't matter: so what BM>> if it takes an extra few minutes to download the five mega-GB files? BM>> Does if one of us is trying to watch a show on-line. NB>> So one would try to be aware of what the other is doing, or NB>> needs/wants to be doing... :) BM> So far not all that necessary: haven't had any problems with buffering BM> if two us us happen to be watching a video at the same time. Might be BM> it isn't a constant stream but blocks, and so alternates between the BM> two video streams. WAG. I figure as long as it works let it do it's BM> magic. Sounds plausible... :) BM> LIS, d/l video plus a few mega-files and there are problems -- files BM> might be one big block (effectively) and so no "your turn" built in. BM> LIS, WAG. Also plausible... :) NB>>> Well, it's Richard that records the service and then processes it NB>>> into the file(s).... and then he is uploading the email messages with NB>>> the attached file to the various shut-ins... he does it to a bulk NB>>> mailing list, so it all goes at one time and then gets sent out to NB>>> the individuals by our ISP.... It's his uploading that hogs our NB>>> service... I have to wait until he finishes to do any of my stuff... BM>> Ah! Other than the line speed the only potential solution I can think BM>> of right now would be to delay the uploads to an overnight process but BM>> thinking the delay may be a disadvantage. You're just going to have BM>> to do domething else during Sermon Upload Time! NB>> As long as we have our usual uploading speeds, his entire upload is NB>> only about 5 minutes or so, thankfully... It was only when we were NB>> using dialup that it took more like HOURS.... BM> That was how I got into scripting: those taking forever to BM> download or upload BBS sessions on 9600 baud dial-up. I started a BM> half- hour before dinner - should have been done by now! (Maybe was BM> slower, definately faster later. Know my first modem was 1200 baud.) I came home from a trip, years ago, having left Richard to do my bbs downloads whilst I was away, to find that the modem had been upgraded to a much faster one... might have been 2400 to 9600, or possibly 9600 to 14,400.... ;) Above, though, I was referring to when we had temporarily lost our DSL, and had to use the backup dialup to access the internet for our up- and down-loadings in the interim... NB>>> And now, probably put back onto hold because the weather has NB>>> turned rather less conducive to the project.... ;) BM>> It was 24ø outside last I checked, so yes, the attic electrical BM>> project is on hold. IMO not urgent enough to hand it over to an BM>> electrician when we do decide to get some other electrical projects BM>> done I could do but don't have the tools to do easily. NB>> Guess it's not going to be done this year.... ;) BM> More than likely no. Pool of minor projects building up again - along BM> with those But Firsts. Hiring an electrican we've more or less BM> decided to have several not-all-that-easy-for-an-amateur-to-do done as BM> a bundle: probably cheaper on trip charges, less interruptions (a whole BM> day vs. several hours here and there). Makes sense... :) ttyl neb .... A flashlight is basically a tin can for transporting dead batteries. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .