Subj : Re: Millikan's was: Wegman's To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Tue Nov 19 2019 21:52:12 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Nov-2019 17:22 <=- NB>>> One does tend to learn better how not to do things by experience NB>>> than by just being told, for many things.... BM>> Right; failing generally isn't a good thing, but it does help one BM>> learn how not to fail the next time. And there probably will be a 'how BM>> not to fail as badly next time' as one usually doesn't totally succeed BM>> on the first or second try of something new. NB>> As long as one isn't branded as a failure.... BM> Right. There are failures, of course, but IMO the idea isn't to think BM> of them as a failed outcome but rather an outcome that didn't go as BM> desired. She's not ready for the "why didn't this work" detailing but BM> a "what can be done differently to get it to work". Simple BM> considerations like too big or too small or too flimsy. Or just the "why don't we try it this way instead...." It can be an exercise in teaching her to think analytically BM> ...Not stating to her in absolutes but in a manner to indicate what BM> wasn't quite right. As you said, don't brand as a failure but help BM> figure out what to do to get to work. And it's good to draw the distinction between an action being a failure (or just not working out as expected) instead of the person being told she is a failure... :) BM>> As far as sorting through the data, not really around here! Too much BM>> of 'may be needed some day'. OTOH the last time I went into those BM>> directories.... No real need to: have only used 16% of this hard drive. NB>> So you have plenty of space.... for now.... I don't do a lot NB>> of the winnowing either, except of email messages.... BM> I also tend to go for convenience: flipping through floppies/zip BM> disks/ USB hard drives, etc., is sort of a nuisance to me, especially BM> when I tend to be a little sloppy in labelling and sorting. That darn BM> procrastination slips in! At least you have a lot of space right there on your computer's hard drive.... ;) NB>> He sent a message to the moderator of Memories (Fido) recently NB>> that he'd not be around for a while, between having things he had NB>> to take care of and the expected weather issues.... He's not NB>> been there lately either, including the automatic posts... so it NB>> does look as though the bbs isn't up and running either... BM> He has taken his BBS down with impending bad weather - was one of the BM> items discussed when he applied. Seems like too long a time to be BM> off-line, but he's got a few other things to take care of besides the BM> BBS and us. And since, you've posted his message about the major mess he's living through at the moment.... If you can, please pass along to him that he's still in my thoughts and prayers while he deals with all of that... NB>>> ... Multigrain cereals: boxes full of small cookies with oat bran NB>>> added. BM>> Reminds me of my grocery shopping trip yesterday. Glance through the BM>> ad - their store brand cereal is on sale at 99›. OK, I could pick up BM>> some at that price. Ends up just their 'cookies for breakfast' cereals BM>> were, not the healthier (and so more expensive) ones. Not a case of BM>> false advertising as different brand line. The ones I like will be on BM>> sale eventually, not for 99›. Have to pay for the better ingredients. NB>> Indeed. :) BM> And IMO worth it. I do like cookies (the edible kind, some of the BM> computer kind are OK), but not a fan of them as a breakfast. I'm not much for breakfast of any sort anyway... An actually nutritious cookie might be a substitute were I actually up and hungry at that time of day... Just as likely to be some sort of leftovers, though... :) ttyl neb .... Avoid that run down feeling. Stay on the sidewalk. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .