Subj : Re: moving or not was: CFBBS To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Nov 08 2019 18:12:26 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Nov-2019 10:07 <=- NB>>>> Replying 11 October from the Pond, about 10:00am.... BM>>> Not September?! NB>>> Yeah, right... rub it in... ;0 BM>> You know what they say about once stuff is posted to the Internet! NB>> But this is supposed to be beneath the radar.... ;) BM> Those bots are getting more observant! ...Was kind of funny: a few BM> months ago I was doing some 'research' on the web to try to fingure BM> out a problem. Google popped up a suggestion in Russian -- translate BM> this site? Sure. ...This looks familiar! It was one of my threads on BM> a U.S. site which had been grabbed by a Russian search engine and BM> translated! That's a little different.... if still a little scary... That would have been on a website of some sort, though, not here in a quiet personal computer network.... :) BM>> areas, you are more interested in it working than how it works (and my BM>> phrasing isn't quite right), but you knew when you were at your BM>> friends' last year (?) you might be able to connect to their router and BM>> they didn't even know where it is. NB>> That last was actually at my sister's, and this past April... But NB>> yes, I'm more concerned with something just working, not really NB>> with how things operate under the surface... :) BM> The 'Black Box Thinking' is a time-saver! To use something more BM> everyday, one doesn't have to think about how the electricity was BM> generated when one flips the wall switch. For the WiFi around here I BM> don't need to go much beyond whether the 2.4 or the 5 GHz band. Exactly... and mostly that is all that I need, just the basic magic spells to make something work... and when it doesn't, then someone else has to fix it... :) BM> OTOH for the weather station sensor problem I did dig down into what BM> might be causing interference in the 433 MHz band, finding out about BM> IoT (Internet of Things), remote reading of power meters, etc., etc., BM> etc. (Which the further I got into it the more verification I probably BM> wasn't going to get a solution and so go a different route.) You knew enough to figure out when it was time to quit... ;) BM>>> Yes, something one gets accustomed to and automatically deals with it. BM>>> Common example is one gets out of bed, stands up and feels BM>>> faint/dizzy. "Fix" (really workaround) is to sit on the edge of the bed BM>>> for a few seconds before standing up: gives the body an intermediate BM>>> step for time to build the blood pressure up. NB>>> Yup... good example... another would be to avoid certain positions NB>>> as being more likely to cause the issue... or to be prepared to shift NB>>> a head position that is starting to trigger it... BM>> Right. Ideally to fix/correct the sitution but as one can't/is unable BM>> to use a work-around. Feel the hands starting to tingle, move the BM>> head. Laying down for an extended time, sit a few seconds before BM>> standing up. (Really need to come up with different examples!) NB>> A lot of it is being aware of what does cause issues, and trying to NB>> avoid those situations where possible... :) And warning doctors and NB>> such when avoidance isn't totally possible.... BM> Yes, always nice to be aware and so at least a bit prepared for a BM> problem. "I might get dizzy" should at least result in a "let's not BM> have the patient jump out of the chair" consideration. Or, as in the case of the dentist/hygenist, who keep asking one to "turn towards me", to know that if I do, I'm likely to trigger dizzies, so I'm not going to be able to, and they need to use a different position themselves instead.... BM>> Ah! And in the interim I did clog my DSL line: was downloading a few BM>> rather large video files concurrently -- I did note the displayed BM>> down-load speed had decreased for each but not a big deal: just takes BM>> a little longer to obtain the file; I'm not looking at it now. Then BM>> the music paused: buffering as it waited it's turn to download. Ah! BM>> Yes, there are times when a greater download speed is needed! If we BM>> did the typical Mediacom (and probably Comcast) commercial of the BM>> family of five live streaming all at once I'd probably would have BM>> increased my speed tier long ago. NB>> Yeah... that's not the sort of usage we do here, fortunately... :) BM> Generally I don't run into the problem or it doesn't matter: so what BM> if it takes an extra few minutes to download the five mega-GB files? BM> Does if one of us is trying to watch a show on-line. So one would try to be aware of what the other is doing, or needs/wants to be doing... :) BM>> As for your downloading, the entire service is one huge file. Even if BM>> they broke it up into sections still would be downloading the various BM>> sections all at the same time and might even make things worse: if one BM>> big file "take things as they come along" but multiple files might be BM>> like my overload and create buffering or at least a slowdown. ...Plus BM>> more work on the Chruch side to prepare the files. NB>> Well, it's Richard that records the service and then processes it NB>> into the file(s).... and then he is uploading the email messages with NB>> the attached file to the various shut-ins... he does it to a bulk NB>> mailing list, so it all goes at one time and then gets sent out to NB>> the individuals by our ISP.... It's his uploading that hogs our NB>> service... I have to wait until he finishes to do any of my stuff... BM> Ah! Other than the line speed the only potential solution I can think BM> of right now would be to delay the uploads to an overnight process but BM> thinking the delay may be a disadvantage. You're just going to have BM> to do domething else during Sermon Upload Time! As long as we have our usual uploading speeds, his entire upload is only about 5 minutes or so, thankfully... It was only when we were using dialup that it took more like HOURS.... NB>>> What a concept...! Getting one thing finished first... ;) BM>> So far just a concept!! NB>> And now, probably put back onto hold because the weather has NB>> turned rather less conducive to the project.... ;) BM> It was 24ø outside last I checked, so yes, the attic electrical BM> project is on hold. IMO not urgent enough to hand it over to an BM> electrician when we do decide to get some other electrical projects BM> done I could do but don't have the tools to do easily. Guess it's not going to be done this year.... ;) ttyl neb .... Don't try pessimism. It won't work anyway.... --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .