Subj : disability was: Posts To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Wed Oct 30 2019 09:50:00 Hi Nancy! NB>>>> At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one NB>>>> can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have NB>>>> to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her NB>>>> vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself.... BM>>> I had the temporary hangtag. NB>>> At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle... NB>> I'll be seeing that friend next week... I might remember to ask NB>> her... ;) BM> Curious Cat started clawing and so I did a quick check -- so far BM> didn't find the Plate + Hangtag answer NB> So I asked my friend... and she didn't know... but now she's NB> going to look into it, because she had a bit of a problem when NB> her car was in the shop for repairs, and she didn't have the NB> license plate to show her eligibility for the handicap spots.... NB> All she has now is the plates... but she is going to see if she NB> can get a hangtag as well... She'd thought that it was a short NB> term thing (like the temp tags), but I told her that they are for NB> something like 8 years, and are pretty much automatically NB> renewed, only have to go in and pick up a new one... The portable hangtag only comes to light when the car with the handicap plates isn't available! Even if had to be requested annual would be a good idea to have: besides the car in service just riding with someone -- pull out the tag to be able to park close (for medical reasons). BM> but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate BM> if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the BM> rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower BM> left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there. NB> That's a nice setup too, then.... :) Yes. I don't recall the sticker option when I was looking in to the permit years ago. Actually makes more sense in some cases: bending / kneeling for an extended time swapping out the plates can be a problem for some! Slap a sticker on, done! BM> OK, apparently can have plate plus hangtag: BM> Multiple permits BM> - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles BM> titled in the person's name with a disability. BM> - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each BM> person with a disability. BM> - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to all BM> vehicles titled in the person's name with a disability. BM> The second point seems to imply in Iowa can have both. If I ever need BM> to obtain I'd double-check the legal requirements. The official BM> request form may make the option real clear. NB> Looks like... and the official request form is where I think I NB> remember seeing the option to get both as well as either/or.... NB> :) Probably. Sometimes easier not to make things complicated by explaining it all in the summary. NB>> Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do NB>> have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be NB>> riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles NB>> I've had this year)... BM> Now if you only carried a purse! NB> Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could NB> tuck the tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle.... Makes sense: as the need arises. BM> I think I put mine on the passenger seat as generally I was driving BM> alone, or if a passenger moved it to the center console's 'container'. BM> (The container thing isn't too large so the tag had to be shoved in.) NB> I've seen things advertised to tuck it up behind the visor.... NB> and swing it down when ready to use.... Still have to remember to swing down the visor, which isn't all that difficult - about the same as remembering to pull from the glove compartment. I'd find it more convenient between the two options. NB> But usually the glove NB> compartment is the best place for me... I'd rather not leave it NB> out in the open if it isn't actually in use... sometimes one NB> finds a spot that works just as well that isn't designated, but NB> one doesn't want to have the car broken into just to steal the NB> tag, either... Right. I don't recall hearing of a car being broken in to just for the tag but wouldn't surprise me. NB>>> Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and right NB>>> around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind you... the NB>>> rentals I've used have had them... :) BM>> I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones BM>> were starting to. NB>> It's kinda a wide-angle view, but still not really a side view... BM> And I'm glad you had brought up that detail: one of the e-ads I get BM> had an add-on rear view camera. Decent price but minimal wide view and BM> definitely no side view. NB> It could be useful, but just expect too much from it... :) Right. At this point I'd wait for one with much better side view capabilities. The version I usually see is mounted above the rear license plate (via the plate's screws) which I'm reasonably certain on my car would be a problem for side views as the plate is recessed slightly. BM>> I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity BM>> plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state BM>> authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the BM>> fake plates on new car commercials. NB>> I'd hope that law enforcement would have access to information NB>> that would let them know it's legit... BM> My guess is yes, with the computers they have in their vehicles plus BM> radio contact. Hopefully they don't have to spend as much time as you BM> and I have on this little 'project' -- access to that database. Plus BM> they can probably do it 'backwards': vehicle parked in a handicapped BM> spot -- have plates/sticker/hangtag? If 'yes' then probably legit, if BM> no issue ticket. If probably legit then run the plate: the plate BM> information should have whether allowed to have a handicap ID. NB> Except, the ID's registered to a person not the plate, unless the NB> plate itself is the handicap sort.... More likely just to accept NB> the plate or sticker or tag at face value.... :) Right: the usual reason is the to ascertain authorized vehicles are parked in a handicapped spot: plate/sticker/hangtag? Okey-dokey! Next! BM>> https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent BM>> -way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ According to that news BM>> articles there are two other states with similar plates. NB>> Looks like a few typos in that... ;) BM> Mine or theirs?! Noticed on the local news' crawl this morning BM> "Davepnort". NB> You fixed the "articles" typo.... but looks like there's a typo NB> in the addy ('convienent' instead of 'convenient')... I noticed that too; they will have errors in the crawl a little too frequently. I think every so often on the teleprompter: every so often anchor reading and slight pause as trying to figure out what was supposed to be written. More of a word issue than waiting for the next line to appear on the machine. BM>> And yes, there has been a black-and-gold plate available for some BM>> time for the Iowa Hawkeye (football) supporters. NB>> There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as NB>> well... BM> Common way for the states to obtain more money: various forms of BM> vanity plates. NB> Yup.... :) Nothing wrong with that, just sometimes wonder how all those plate variations get memorized by police, especially adjoining states. suppose easier now with the bar code scanning. BM>> Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden BM>> reasons for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee BM>> I tend to park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral: BM>> parking space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart BM>> next to the car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small BM>> cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral. NB>> Nice to have a cart handy to use as a walker... ;) The handicap NB>> spaces do have extra room on either side of the space (or at NB>> least one side), so it does make loading easier, too... BM> Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't BM> see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a BM> selfie stick to extend and look around!! NB> And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble NB> is, those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do NB> seem to want to park as close as possible.... Or decide where I parked 100' out alone in the semi-boonies was an excellent idea and so park on either side of me! BM>> Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross", BM>> though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never BM>> had that I know of, so might be good. NB>> Only thing I've not tried of those is brain... never had the chance... NB>> but I'd certainly try it, given that chance.... :) And what I've had, NB>> IS good.... ;) BM> 90% of it is probably just growing up and so trained certain words / BM> identifiers are not eaten. If presented and didn't know what it was BM> probably eat and maybe like it. (Conversely have had foods I normally BM> like presented in a format I don't like and so yuck.) NB> True, I grew up with lots of organ meats as part of the usual NB> routine... So for the rest give it a fancy name and the gross stuff now sounds extra-yummy! NB>>> ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers. BM>> And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on BM>> one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have BM>> been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this BM>> weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen BM>> fluttering around. NB>> Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :) BM> They may have left: I haven't been outside that much but didn't see BM> anyone except a couple of white moths. NB> It is getting to be that time of year.... :) Hopefully everybody left who was supposed to leave. Had that quarter- inch of snow yesterday morning; day or two before doing some tidying up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those moths winter.) NB> ... Best file compression around! "DEL *.*" - 100% compression Wow! Look at that access time!! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Hillbilly Dining: fast food is hitting a deer at 65. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .