Subj : disability was: Posts To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Wed Oct 09 2019 09:27:00 Hi Nancy! BM>> ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or BM>> van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and BM>> borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other BM>> vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the BM>> original vehicle, not the one being borrowed. NB>> At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one NB>> can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have NB>> to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her NB>> vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself.... BM> I had the temporary hangtag. NB> At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle... BM> True. To me would make sense to have a 'portable' hangtag, not just BM> for when the regular vehicle needs repair but those times when a BM> passenger. NB> Before I had my permanent hangtag, I regularly transported a few NB> people that just brought their hangtag with them, to be hung in NB> whatever vehicle they were riding in... now I just use mine... NB> and try to remember to take it with me if I'm riding in another NB> vehicle than my own... ;) It's registered to the person, not the NB> vehicle... Right on the hangtag being registered to person and not the vehicle. And could see where easy enough to forget to take the hangtag down from the mirror when finally leaving the vehicle: get distracted, etc. ....Carry a spare?! BM> ...OTOH there were times when I preferred not to park in a BM> spot (when I was authorized). My car is a 'little wind-up' and parking BM> amongst the vans and SUVs hard to see around them to back out. (Backup BM> camera would have been handy.) NB> Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and NB> right around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind NB> you... the rentals I've used have had them... :) I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones were starting to. I'd still not rely on eventual side-view camera: use as an adjunct to what I observe. IOW "looks clear in the viewfinder" does not mean slam the car in reverse and go. BM>> In Iowa can have multiple identifiers: BM>> Multiple Permits BM>> - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles BM>> titled in the person with disabilities' name. BM>> - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each person BM>> with a disability. BM>> - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to BM>> all vehicles titled in the person with disabilities name. NB>> I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think NB>> one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to NB>> research deeper to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled NB>> in name" applies here, too... BM> Regulations vary by state -- no wonder tourists get confused! NB> That they do... I'm pretty sure though that all states have NB> reciprocity agreements where the issuing state's disability NB> "markers" are accepted by the other states... :) I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the fake plates on new car commercials. https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent- way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ Accroding to that news artciles there are two other states with similar plates. And yes, there has been a black-and-gold plate available for some time for the Iowa Hawkeye (football) supporters. BM>> Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one BM>> needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in BM>> repair. NB>> I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose NB>> plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago.... BM> If I need one I'd be re-checking the regulations as has been ten years BM> since I fell-down-and-go-boom'd - a few things have probably changed. BM> To my thinking a permanent plate on the car plus a portable hangtag BM> makes sense. NB> It does, for all the reasons we've already stated... ;) I had a NB> temporary tag when I broke my ankle, too... got the permanent one NB> for myself more recently... my doctor agreed that it would be a NB> good idea for me to have it... Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden reasons for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee I tend to park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral: parking space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart next to the car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral. NB>>> ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty. BM>> You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the BM>> other message! NB>> Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be NB>> technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might NB>> apply to the general perception of most offal foods.... :) BM> Some might be tatsy until find out what they are! NB> Actually, they are tasty, even when one does know what they NB> are... :) We've done "full-disclosure" tastings of such at NB> various Cooking Echo Picnics.... this year it was steak and NB> kidney pie... actually lamb kidneys and shoulder roast cut up... NB> When the kidney was just cooked, before adding it to the pie, NB> each of us had a little piece to taste... and everyone, even the NB> doubters, agreed that it really was quite nice... and enjoyed the NB> final product as well... :) Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross", though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never had that I know of, so might be good. And intestines used to be and sometimes still used for sausage casings. You _know_ what went through those intestines!! NB> ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers. And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen fluttering around. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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