Subj : PING Question To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Sat Aug 31 2019 08:45:00 Hi Nancy! BM>> ls and dir do appear to give the same information, just ls displays BM>> with colour coding and dir seems to be only in monochrome. And yes, BM>> I'm allowing a little wiggle room as seems like should be more to the BM>> differences between the two commands than just colour. Maybe some day BM>> I'll check further, or find out some way. NB>> They both display in monochrome on my computer... BM> The Wizard is making you use a green screen?!!! ...Here with my BM> colour blindness sometimes may as well be a monochrome display: BM> sometimes a white and light blue look the same to me. NB> Black screen, off-white writing... I have colors in various NB> programs, such as in Emacs, where I am at the moment, or the NB> Bluewave reader... just not at the main screen.... remember, NB> this is DOS... I used DOS originally. Started with 2.11 but don't know if could do colours as had a monochrome monitor. First system with colour monitor had DOS but I don't know which version. NB>> A little later... I shelled out of this message and did a little NB>> playing with the two commands... ls -l gives a single column (file- NB>> wise) with attributes of each file, size, date and name (just using NB>> ls would give a 5 column listing of just the filenames)... dir NB>> doesn't give the attributes, is again a single column of files with NB>> name, size and date... besides the file information, dir also tells NB>> how many files and how many bytes they take up, plus how many bytes NB>> you still have free in that drive, and some other esoteric info... NB>> ls -l doesn't have the extra non-file-specific info... So the basic NB>> information is pretty much the same, if what you really are NB>> interested in is the files themselves, the dates on them and/or the NB>> size of them... :) BM> Right, though I have found the colours to be helpful. (LIS above, BM> some of the colours can look the same, though can also have if I look BM> long enough note they're not quite the same.) Some of the colour codes BM> will tell if a regular file or linked file ("this file says look here BM> for the real file"), etc. NB> I don't think I have linked files.... just regular ones.... The file displays in 'sky blue'. There are some other colours if there are problems with the link. (I had to look on my cheat sheet!) BM>>>> That can save a lot of typing, especially when they were in Scheckedy, BM>>>> Schedtedi, ah heck! NB>>>> Schenectady, perhaps....? Poughkeepsie comes to mind, too... :) BM>>> But 'Rensselaer' rrrolls off the tongue nicely! (Heck: I always BM>>> thought it was "Renesslaer".) NB>>> And another instance of similar names across NYS, there's also a NB>>> Rensselaer Falls near where I am as I type.... here in St. Lawrence NB>>> County.... :) BM>> Obviously popular name! NB>> Named after some famous person no doubt... :) BM> Glad it was back then and not in today's 'age of casualness' otherwise BM> it would be call "St. Larry County"! NB> And maybe Renzie....? If there was something like a Stimpson County adjoining they could be 'Ren and Stimpy'! (Odd cartoon from several years back.) ...Think I'll close now. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... I know "Ren" means "Rename"......but Stimpy??? --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .