Subj : Re: PING Question To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Sat Aug 24 2019 18:49:40 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=- BM>> Yes, one reason why "in the old days" when I was selling BM>> computers tried to stay with the basic DOS and Windows commands so I BM>> could be 'fluent' when helping customers, plus they didn't have the BM>> 'special' utilities. BTW, 'dir' and both ls's work with Ubuntu 18.04. BM>> "ls -l" is also one of potential interest. NB>> That's just ls with a switch... :) And gives essentially the NB>> same info as dir... :) BM> ls and dir do appear to give the same information, just ls displays BM> with colour coding and dir seems to be only in monochrome. And yes, BM> I'm allowing a little wiggle room as seems like should be more to the BM> differences between the two commands than just colour. Maybe some day BM> I'll check further, or find out some way. They both display in monochrome on my computer... A little later... I shelled out of this message and did a little playing with the two commands... ls -l gives a single column (file-wise) with attributes of each file, size, date and name (just using ls would give a 5 column listing of just the filenames)... dir doesn't give the attributes, is again a single column of files with name, size and date... besides the file information, dir also tells how many files and how many bytes they take up, plus how many bytes you still have free in that drive, and some other esoteric info... ls -l doesn't have the extra non-file-specific info... So the basic information is pretty much the same, if what you really are interested in is the files themselves, the dates on them and/or the size of them... :) BM>>>> Yes. :) Probably is that way only finds the last-used command of the BM>>>> match, On that ever-lengthening list of things to do is to find a way BM>>>> to bring up a list. But First! NB>>>> In my Genealogy Program (the Master Genealogist), there's a similar NB>>>> command for bringing up the last value used, or a list of the last NB>>>> 10... Comes in handy when one is entering info for a set of people NB>>>> that all lived etc in the same place.... :) BM>>> That can save a lot of typing, especially when they were in Scheckedy, BM>>> Schedtedi, ah heck! NB>>> Schenectady, perhaps....? Poughkeepsie comes to mind, too... :) BM>> But 'Rensselaer' rrrolls off the tongue nicely! (Heck: I always BM>> thought it was "Renesslaer".) NB>> And another instance of similar names across NYS, there's also a NB>> Rensselaer Falls near where I am as I type.... here in St. Lawrence NB>> County.... :) BM> Obviously popular name! Named after some famous person no doubt... :) BM>>>> ... When baking, follow directions. When cooking, go by your own BM>>>> taste. NB>>>> Depends... when one regularly bakes the same thing, one can NB>>>> generally tweak some there, too... :) BM>>> True: last time we had this it needed a little more seasoning. NB>>> Or, today it's more humid, needs less liquid and/or more NB>>> flour.... :) BM>> It's going to be almost 100ø outside - cook a little less? NB>> Don't use the oven, anyway... So probably no baking... BM> We occasionally cheat a little and use the second oven in the basement BM> to avoid heating up the house. Does heat up the basement some but not BM> as much as using the one in the kitchen would heat up the house. Some places (especially in the South) would have summer kitchens, separate from the house, so that cooking and baking wouldn't heat up the house.... :) ttyl neb .... "Pay no attention to the gecko behind the curtain!" --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .