Subj : Re: Thunderstorms Was: We To : Daryl Stout From : Nancy Backus Date : Fri Aug 09 2019 16:34:02 -=> Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 06-Aug-2019 11:13 <=- NB>> For snowballs and snowmen, one wants a snow with some moisture, NB>> so that it packs nicely, but not so wet that it turns to ice when NB>> one compacts it.... DS> That makes sense. With the snow cream, you can't stir it up, or DS> it'll "break down". So one would probably want snow with a bit of body for that, too... :) NB>> Actually, what I was talking about wasn't the lack of precipitation, NB>> but the lack of thunder and lightning.... Many times there's just NB>> rain, even heavy rain, and none of the electric stuff.... And only NB>> rarely does one get thunder and lightning with snow.... I have on NB>> rare occasion, though, also experienced the virga... DS> Yet, even in heavy rain, an unexpected lightning strike can occur. DS> And, it only takes one strike to fry everything. True, and true... but in my experience (and maybe it something to do with location), there's often no lightning at all... In a recent monster storm (lots of rain, all day, and mostly very heavy) up in the Adirondacks, there was no thunder or lightning, and I saw a friend at the Pond going out in her kayak... Possibly tempting fate, but she didn't have any problems.... NB>> That essentially is how I understood rain (and snow) storms to NB>> form... Barry was talking about an experiment with oil that he NB>> thought could be analogous... but that did require some difference NB>> in potential as well as just the coalesence.... DS> Plus, the force of the updrafts and downdrafts makes being inside a DS> storm extremely turbulent and dangerous. Only the Hurricane Hunters in DS> the modified C-130 aircraft, can enter those dangerous storms safely. DS> The ride is very violent in the eye wall, but smooths out in the eye. DS> Yet, to get back to base, you have to go through that eye wall again. Pretty sure Barry's experiment was in a laboratory, not in the middle of a storm... And I'm just as glad to stay out of storms entirely... ttyl neb .... Helicopters are merely 500,000 parts flying in formation. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .