Subj : moving or not was: CFBBS To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Wed Jul 03 2019 16:03:00 Hi Nancy! NB>> Continuing answering messages offline and away from home... Just NB>> happened to think about whether or not my date/time stamps are NB>> being preserved... I've been answering a little at a time... NB>> today is the 19th, this message at about 7 pm... BM> No idea: all the messages come in with the timestamp of when imported BM> to this system. Some day in my free time I'll have to see if can BM> figure out what isn't configured properly. NB> That's true... even though it appears that Tiny's bbs isn't NB> messing with my date/timestamp, you'd still not see mine... maybe NB> I should just make a practice of putting them inside the NB> message.... Of course, it usually isn't all that important... ;) Generally not that important. Previous message does have July 3rd and 4th statements. And I don't journal so anything with a specific date but nothing to remind me of what was going on wouldn't help. I do date notes here: helps if they get out of sequence while shuffling through. BM>>> According to a comment from Daryl earlier Amtrack and others BM>>> rent/lease/have some sort of access and use agreement. NB>>> Right... and that was my understanding as well, even before he made NB>>> the comment... BM>> To share tracks would make sense: a lot less expensive compared to BM>> building a unique set, some of the expense of building one's own BM>> tracks is offset by leasing/renting the track. NB>> Indeed. It does make a lot of sense... :) BM> And same for other shared transports. I think some of the pipelines BM> are shared: AFAIK don't have a Shell crude oil pipeline and a Casey's BM> crude oil pipe (latter is a regional brand). ...Read some time back BM> the crude oil source was sometimes the same (say, from Alaska oil BM> fields) and transported through the same pipeline and somehow separated BM> at the far ends -- something else to check out in my free time! NB> That would make sense.... Also, regional brands might not refine NB> their own oil into gasoline, but get it from other/major NB> refineries.... :) True, though I'm only vaguely familiar with the details so off to Google-land! At its gas stations Shell provides diesel fuel, gasoline and LPG. Shell Oil Company was a 50/50 partner with the Saudi Arabian government-owned oil company Saudi Aramco in Motiva Enterprises, a refining and marketing joint venture which owns and operates three oil refineries on the Gulf Coast of the United States. Snippet from this post: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/culture/commuting/where-your -gas-comes-from/article535112/ You can see several big trucks lined up with their hoses attached to different outlets at a refinery. I once took a picture of Shell, Texaco and Petro-Canada trucks filling up at an Esso refinery. The next paragpaph is important: The point is that the refineries have contracts to supply gasoline, diesel, fuel oil, aircraft fuel, etc., tailored to the specific requirements of that customer. So to make the example easier we'll just say all gasoline starts off at the same place but is refined, processed, etc., differently before gets to the local pump. BM>> And there was something in the news a few days ago about train funding BM>> in Illinois but at the time wasn't clear on how affecting the proposed BM>> line for here. So the trains will continue, we just don't know where. NB>> Just have to pay attention when it comes on the news.... and keep NB>> your eyes open for when things do change... :) BM> Nothing seen since, though doesn't mean nothing happening! NB> Quite true.... just not hitting the news.... :) Right. Maybe nothing did happen that day or week, maybe did but was so minor only 'the research nerd in the corner' could find (^*), maybe something did happen but overshadowed by another event..... (^*) On the 'research nerd', thinking of someone like the person/people at law offices who comb the newspapers for the bankruptcy, etc., announcements, go to the library and courthouse to dig up details for a court case, etc., etc. I'll admit to enjoying a bit of digging research every so often but not as a full-time job. BM>>> Appears to be permanent. And half-heard on the TV news the railroad BM>>> was going to or considering installing a flood wall along their tracks. BM>>> No idea how that would interface with the city streets, Opening at BM>>> the street but when the railroad would close because of an impending BM>>> flood that would block the street..... NB>>> Could be interesting... Many of our crossings are a bridge over NB>>> the street (and sometimes the bridge over the tracks)... there NB>>> are still plenty of at-grade crossings... We don't have as much NB>>> risk of flooding near most of the tracks here, though.... BM>> Sort of snickering at the bridged crossings. The downtown Davenport BM>> area has quite a few railroad bridges crossing over major streets. BM>> The problem is when the bridges were built trucks apparently were not BM>> as tall, now quite a few get 'eaten' by the bridges: tops get peeled BM>> off. NB>> I don't think that that happens all that often here... at least I NB>> don't hear much about it happening... BM> Probably a rarity, though years ago have experienced some rather BM> narrow and probably short bridges oth there where could probably BM> happen. Here mostly happens with the larger semi's but also the BM> mid-sized one-piece trucks. NB> Some just aren't very friendly to the larger vehicles.... NB> although they generally are fairly well marked in advance... Yes, always have had short bridges, narrow bridges, and it seems they have been marked. Hmm: even drive throughs: banks and credit unions -- I don't recall seeing height signs but examples I can think of had very high 'roofs'. The NcDonalds I go past frequently does have height bars before one gets to the ordering area; no idea what happens if a truck or camper hits the bar and tries to continue. BM>> Yes, all the bridges have height markings, the problem ones have all BM>> sorts of warning signals and devices: metal tubes suspended to 'gong' BM>> when hit to warn will hit the bridge, various other measuring methods, BM>> all also turn on warning signs.... Clunk! Munch-munch-munch!! NB>> Yeah... too many are functionally illiterate... or think it NB>> doesn't apply to them... and often, one finds that physics isn't NB>> as flexible as one seems to think.... BM> Apparently! Could see it if happened more with rental-type trucks BM> driven by 'amateurs': people who usually drive cars and don't think to BM> look at the "clearance: 11'8"" signs and thinks it applies to what BM> they're temporarily driving. OTOH happens a little too often with BM> commercial drivers who should know better. NB> Maybe they just don't keep in mind what their own clearance NB> actually is... You'd think that would be a basic, but.... ;) One would think so, especially for professional drivers, and a lot of the truck eating bridges seem to munch on business trucks. Could sort of understand the oversight by 'regular' (non-CDL) drivers renting a U-Haul to move and never before had to be concerned about if their car would fit. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Don't accept dog's admiration as conclusive evidence you are wonderful. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .