Subj : nuts was: logs and To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Tue Jul 02 2019 15:28:00 Hi Nancy! BM> Ah! There you are! Must have been a blockage in the communication BM> links somewhere as has been rather quiet around here. NB> As you saw further in that pile, it was because I was away from NB> home with no access, just working away at messages as I could... NB> but couldn't upload until I got myself back home... ;) I'm NB> hoping to get these answered before I leave again, but things NB> have been somewhat busy, so I've not been able to send every NB> night... I'll take stuff with me again when I leave again, so NB> I'll just keep whittling away at it... with gaps of transmission, NB> of course... Just simply do when have the time. :) NB>>> In my cell phone, I merely listed all the different numbers I'd NB>>> seen our PCP office use to contact us, with their name, so NB>>> whenever any of those numbers calls my cell, it comes up as NB>>> them... Can't do that with the landline, it would use up too much NB>>> of the directory.... BM>> True, plus with the landline would have to enter a directory listing BM>> for each phone and some don't have that feature. NB>> Exactly... My directory each is a separate entry, and there are only NB>> 50 slots, one of which is needed to add a leading 1 for a long-distance NB>> callback.... and that's only with the cordless set... the rest don't NB>> have any directory.... BM> So 49 slots. depending on the number of phones one has can become BM> quite a big job to enter all that data in! NB> Yup, 49 slots... but the directory is stored in the main base, NB> not the handsets, so it's just the one directory, which either of NB> the handsets can access... and that's for the landline... :) One common base is better, or at least for that option. Here have several cordless phones but all have separate bases. Just never got around to making them 'common'. Also the little quirks of each: one will have an easier to read display but another will have a better speakerhone. NB> The other, wired-in, extensions don't have their own directories, NB> nor access to the cordless base's directory... We mostly do use NB> the cordless handsets, though... Right. I think the phone I have up here is the only wired phone with a directory but it has nothing programmed -- either have the number memorized or easier and faster to look it up on the list. It's speakerphone I use frequently, though mainly to do on-hook dialing and/or while waiting for 'the next available customer service representative whose call is important to me' (!), NB> Before we had our phone number stolen and then returned, I had NB> also set up a 30-number speed dial with the phone company.... NB> that got erased in the fracas, and I have yet to re-set that one NB> up... a lot of effort, and I've not had any really good time NB> available to set aside to do that yet... I'd have to look at a list to see what their speed dial number was! BM>> Do need to get my NCID project going so shows up on the Caller ID - BM>> built-in or separate box. That one is a little ways down the list..... NB>> Yup, lots of other But First projects... :) BM> Yes; the NCID project was mainly held up because the telephone or BM> power line needed to be moved (probably power because there's antenna BM> and networking feeds in the same run), but that delayed because of the BM> coldness in the Storage Area, then the other hiring of a electrician BM> to do a few other projects was never gotten to..... NB> Now it will be the heat of the Storage Area... and getting to NB> hiring of the electrician.... Yes. This year is just zipping by! NB>>> Ah, so you can install the new phones, but the real question is NB>>> whether she'd use them once installed..... BM>> More like getting the new phones approved in the first place. Just BM>> doing it isn't going to work. There was a 'big stink' when the phone BM>> with all the directory buttons failed -- fortunately when I got there BM>> found the wall wart failed so just had to replace that. At the time BM>> Dad was alive so he and I (mainly me) were looking for a replacement BM>> phone with a suitable number of memory buttons -- pretty much was a BM>> commercial/business level. No, my Mother isn't one for change. NB>> I can understand not wanting change... I don't adapt easily either... NB>> at least in some areas... ;) And switching from discrete buttons to NB>> a push the button multiple times to scroll through would be different, NB>> but more like looking something up in a hard-copy phone directory, NB>> just not having to input the number after finding it... :) BM> I'll also admit to not always liking change -- sometimes because the BM> new way has drawbacks, sometimes just no real reason to change. As for BM> my Mother's phone and equipment, some of it may be sentimental: Dad did BM> it or had something to do with it. Not a bad reason not to change. NB> Could be... You might be able to set her up a system that still NB> incorporates that handset.... but adds in some Caller ID phones, NB> with a built-in directory, so that she could get used to it bit NB> by bit... :) I'm sure that it would require some ahead of time NB> discussion with her as to why and how it could make her life NB> easier... one doesn't have to answer the precise phone handset NB> that is telling her who is calling, if she decides she wants to NB> talk to them.... Correct. First would be to instill the need. The inital problem is 'works fine' and 'I don't need that', though sometimes after months the 'don't need' slowly turns into a 'well, it would be handy sometimes'. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... 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