Subj : Re: Vacation Time! To : Barry Martin From : Nancy Backus Date : Sat Jun 29 2019 02:00:50 -=> Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-Jun-2019 08:39 <=- BM>> Yes. To me it was phrased oddly but during yesterday's or Friday's BM>> news they mentioned Monday will be the 91st day of the Mississippi BM>> being over flood stage locally. To me the phrasing would be "today is BM>> the 89th day". Would have made more sense to phrase with "the Monday BM>> will be" if Monday has some significance. Even "tomorrow will be the BM>> 90th day" as '90' is a nice round milestone number. NB>> Was that Monday expected to be the day it finally was back at flood NB>> stage or below....? Otherwise, I'd agree that it would make more NB>> sense to give the statistic as of the day being told... or the next NB>> nice round milestone number.... Maybe 91 was an important number to NB>> the announcer....? ;) BM> We're still a couple of feet above flood stage so that wasn't the BM> Monday significance -- never did find out. Some things just don't really make sense.... BM> ...The good news is the BM> barge traffic has begun -- I'd guess some will have to wait a little BM> longer as too tall, but things are progressing back to normal. That IS good news, on many fronts... :) How are the flood levels now....? NB>>>> So the River just got so high that it was able to seep through NB>>>> the barriers.... BM>>> More accurately the River stayed high so long. Some of the barriers BM>>> (HESCO, sandbags, walls, etc.) have been up and in water since March. NB>>> Ah... all the sand just absorbed too much water, eventually, then....? BM>> Possibly, or the plastic/whatever material on the river side got a BM>> hole - either effectively rotted because of being wet so long or BM>> punctured by something in the water, and that allowed the rapidly BM>> moving river water to dig away at the sand inside the barrier and BM>> *pooop!*. LISB4, I'd bet there are quite a few inquiries going on, BM>> some for insurance recovery, some just to make the product better. NB>> Yup I'd expect the same... for both insurance and product reasons... BM> And no real updates -- things are going on, just no details I've BM> picked up on as not directly involved. There have been announcements BM> of meetings for businesses, etc.; the temporary site is still open at BM> least through the end of the month for applying for assistance and BM> cleaning supplies..... And clean up is likely to continue for quite a while after the River is back to normal.... BM>>> Possibly! Too bad it had to be found the hard way: property damage, BM>>> etc. I also assume HESCO will be going back to the drawing board and BM>>> using a new material to line the boxes (sand gets dumped inside) which BM>>> is more 'river-resistant'. NB>>> That would make sense.... I guess it takes having this sort of NB>>> record-breaking event to really test out any assumptions, and the NB>>> entire system... BM>> Right. Can soak the barriers in water but that doesn't have the BM>> rushing water part. Could test in an actual river to get the rush BM>> water part but still probably missing the force of two-to-four million BM>> gallons a second. (Of course that's the entire width of the river....) NB>> And of course reproducing flood conditions would be the issue.... One NB>> could, I suppose, submerge the barriers in the river to simulate more NB>> of the conditions... BM> Extended submerging would be part of the simulation; thinking also BM> need to simulate water flow for wear. Water pressure would be another BM> factor. Indeed.... :) ttyl neb .... I am technically a conformist but only within my own subculture. --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .