Subj : Scotch and water was: TV To : Nancy Backus From : Barry Martin Date : Sat Jun 22 2019 11:37:00 Hi Nancy! NB> Replying the 20th at 3:12p I believe you over what I see here! BM>>> As for the upgrading your laptop to have WiFi capabilities. may or BM>>> may not be possible; Richard is looking into that. NB>>> And as I said a day or so ago, probably just isn't going to NB>>> happen, unless I'm in an environment where the connection isn't NB>>> secure... which isn't that wise a thing to be doing anyway... :) BM>> Definitely not. Better off doing without than dealing with problems. NB>> Precisely... :) BM> And based on other snippets of this topic it seems as if "just not BM> going work": technologies just don't overlap. LIS ysterday/day before, BM> The Wizard might look into to a two-step option -- PCCard to (say) USB, BM> then a USB to WiFi dongle, but while that may work mechanically I don't BM> know if it would have the proper 'data stuff': protocols, etc. NB> Exactly... I've no idea either, but my guess would be there'd be NB> issues... :) I'm thinking so also as the protocols would probably be set in the Operating System or added to the OS rather than within the firmware of the adapter. More of an exercise in "as one way didn't work maybe try this other way". NB>>> I think he learned a valuable lesson there.... and hopefully NB>>> either was more explicit in similar situations... or was prepared NB>>> to be totally taken advantage of.... ;) BM>> I'm thinking a little more explicit but as we were saying that could BM>> come across as rude, selfish, something. NB>> One can be explicit without being rude... just need to say it gently, NB>> and possibly just a hint of apology.... BM> True: guide away from the higher-priced sections of the menu, etc. NB> And/or a little joke about not needing to stock up for NB> hibernation... :) That one would probably go over their head. :( ..Maybe the rare case "if I eat too much I willwant to take a nap". BM> And if one of the guests finds they've gone overboard accidentally BM> offer (more like insist!) to pay the tip, the beverages, something to BM> balance. NB> One would hope for that to happen... ....Guess who's paying at the end! BM>> I don't know: my way of thinking is "whoa! free meal! don't go BM>> overboard!" or ask on the expensive stuff/state splitting that cost. BM>> ...Of course the subtle way is the guest asking the host what they're BM>> having, check that item's price, and figure that as the limit. NB>> Those are the considerate person's options that come to mind.... NB>> For the inconsiderate, one probably does have to be a bit more NB>> firmly explicit... BM> True. Obvuiously I'm not at all versed in the art of taking advantage BM> of others! My tip comment above even reflects a balance. NB> Exactly... you and I would try to keep that balance, especially NB> as the guest,,, :) Of course we have a bit of 'social schmartz'. %) BM>>> Stating a price limit can come off wrong: he says $5, I'd like a $6 BM>>> item but no dessert while someone else goes for the $5 and the BM>>> dessert... BM>>> Not really sure how to phrase; "just don't go overboard" to me is BM>>> implied and if I really-really wanted the expensive item I'd be BM>>> 'asking permission' plus stating I'd split the cost. NB>>> Ah, but you are responsible.... and willing to be reasonable... NB>>> and understand the concept of not going overboard.... ;) BM>> Yes, that's sometimes a problem because the logic escapes me: it just BM>> isn't done! NB>> Exactly... you and I would naturally go the considerate (and to us, NB>> logical route).... :) BM> Which makes it difficult to consider the alternative. NB> Yup, we'd have to work at being inconsiderate... make a special NB> effort... and since that's work, just isn't going to happen,,, Right: IMO volunteering to pay $5 for a $25 meal I'm still getting the better part of the eating deal and doesn't make me look like a deadbeat moocher. NB>>> Sounds like she got an eye-opener as to his character.... ;) BM>> Essentially yes. Nice guy though even before meeting him we BM>> suspected an "unpolished deep interior". As you said, the incident BM>> did open her eyes. NB>> Unpolished doesn't need to be rude and boorish, though.... ;) BM> Correct. Overall a nice guy to know but there were signs of in a BM> relationship he would be -- we'll just say 'demanding'. As AFAICT BM> with the meal incident discussion between the two of them in private BM> later wasn't so much the part about the excessive cost but his BM> justification. Apparently that caused a lot of force-fitted acceptances BM> to come undone for her. NB> Sometimes that's what it takes... figuring out that someone NB> really doesn't process life through the same "rules of life"... True. Something like the saying beware of someone who is nice to you but rude to the waiter. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... A person who is nice to you but rude to the waiter is not nice. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .