Subj : Re: negate the new Win11 To : Barry Martin From : Ky Moffet Date : Fri Jan 09 2026 09:21:00 BARRY MARTIN wrote: > Hi Ky! > > KM> You can bet that if HP and Dell and Enterprise Business were to > KM> put their foot down, Win11's "system requirements" would > KM> evaporate overnight. Because OEMs like HP and Dell and Enterprise > KM> Business are Microsoft's REAL customers. But it's all to a > KM> hardware OEM's advantage if sysreqs require a whole new monkey, > KM> and Enterprise Business has its own pressing needs toward keeping > KM> ahead of liability. > > Well, that's the thing: are HP, Dell and business that 'daring', or have > they been bamboozled by Microsoft? (Sort of reminds me of the 'guy They certainly have a symbiosis -- Microsoft does an upgrade, so the OEMs get a demand surge, and that demand surge is accompanied by OEM Windows licenses. Both benefit. > KM> Home users are not customers, they are a support cost. (And > KM> occasional free beta testers.) > > My thinking is more than occasionally but I agree with the essence of > the paragraph. LOL, okay, all the time. > > KM> And the Win7 laptop got a security update just last week! > > They were feeling benovelant for the holidays? > KM> I think they have an automated build farm that doesn't > KM> distinguish, and the security updates are marked for > KM> compatibility with the security engine (Windows Defender, or > KM> whatever they're calling it now), not with the OS version. > > That would make sense: easier to list. The security updates are all the same Knowledge Base item number, so.... > KM> The real surprise, tho, was Win8.1 getting a full system update > KM> last August. > > I'm thinking tied to finding some file, but good news! I think it's just the build farm doing its thing with no supervision. There's really not much difference in the guts from 8 onward. > And we've discussed how I was misled into thinking Gamer's Gear is > Great Gear. For them, yes, for me, no. Yeah. Great only if you churn hardware twice a year. > KM> But yeah, unless you you really need the security (laptop at job > KM> site, and the like) it's a disaster in training. It's not if you > KM> lose your security key, it's when. > > And might not even be the user's fault! I'm going the Post Office later > this morning so they can verify who I am. (!) I can't get into my > Social Security account because Login.gov can't re-verify me (even > though I've used that login access previously. Are you sure you're you?? :D > Steps: > Enter user and password. > Login.gov sends one-time use code to cell phone. > Login.gov asks and receives permission to send data to cell phone to > begin verification process. > Take picture of front of drivers license via cell phone. "Verified." > Take picture of back of drivers license via cell phone. "Verified." > Take selfie via cell phone. "Verified." > Follow instructions to return to computer so it can send a new > verification code to the cell phone. Error message seomthing like > that number isn't associated with me. (Didn't you [Login.gov] send > the initial verification code to that cell number and you auto- > entered the cell number, not me??!! Didn't you just send to and > accept from the photo link the cell phone number you now say > doens't link to me?) > Tried alternate number: land line (now VoIP) which I've had since > ~1985. That number isn't associated either. I see the problem. You forgot to sacrifice a black chicken. > > Had tried a couple of times around Christmas. Tried again last night. > Off to the Post Office this morning. (That's where the website says to > go.) And you BELIEVED it??! > > > > First item on checklist! (I'm supposed to read the whole message > > > first??!) > > KM> LOL. Basics! > > I usually consider BBS and e-mail messages (well, the personal ones) as > > conversations in writing so read paragraph (sometimes two), respond, > > read, respond..... > KM> Yakkity yak! > > https://youtu.be/4hvyI3hwdrQ?list=RD4hvyI3hwdrQ LOL, first thought. Second: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwEi4ReZHYE > > IIRC it originally had 2 GB; just checked: now has 2x 2GB DDR2. Know I > > checked before buying to be sure of maxing out. > KM> According to what I can find, and normal for Core2Duo, it should > KM> support 8GB. And that would make a lot of difference for Ubuntu > KM> performance. > > I'm going to re-check. I know there are multiple 'letter combination' > versions of the T61; also motherboard compatabilities. Might be. My Thinkstation comes in two very different sub-models, fortunately Fireball is the later edition that is much more capable. > > > Now has a 1TB SSD. :) ...Using a whopping 4%! > KM> LOL. Not tremendously busy, is it. :D > > No. Doesn't get used all that often. ...I know I swapped > out the hard drive mainly to speed things up. The huge size was more > because for a few dollars more I was able to (probably) double the > storage, and when the thing eventualy dies I could reuse a larger SDD > easier than a small one. For a while 1TB SSD was like $50. Now it's twice that.... > > KM> Quick how-to > > KM> (note that one must take care not to rip the ribbon cable that > > KM> goes to the touchpad) > > KM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYkefpMSBso > > Your turn to not read ahead! ...Oh. > KM> Actually, I usually reply from the bottom up... > > So you've read my replies before I answer?! It's how my time machine works. > > Forgot where I got the instructions from but detailed manual of steps to > > replace parts and accompanying drawings. (Porbably IBM/Lenovo knowing > > them.) > KM> They publish service manuals, yeah. > > More like service tombs by their size and detail! Some were! Not anymore. :( > KM> Yeah. I dithered and wasn't really happy with the upgrade options > KM> and now THIS... > > I might be in better shape, only because of what I do with computers > around here: most of the 'remote' computers (outside of the Computer > Room) using a desktop could be replaced by a Raspberry Pi, which right > now go for $100-200 (I'm including case and some peripherals in that > price). Sometimes that's all you need. Like the internet access box in the little house -- it's nothing much, but it's good enough. Tho a RAM upgrade did wonders for it. And replacing the Seagate HDD would help too (poor or no caching). > > KM> ....well, there's newer hardware coming from my sister's office > KM> discards, but experience suggests it will still need a RAM > KM> upgrade! > > Almost the most expensive part! The good news is physically easiest to > do, and can sometimes be done in steps: leave paired slots empty for > now, etc. Yeah, wait for the full upgrade until the used parts hit the market. > > physical space. ...I could even earn a little money by renting extra > > storage space on the computers here for part of the cloud. > KM> Five cents?? > > That's about what I figure the proft would be: have to buy the hardware, > pay for the electricity. Also figure out some sort of storage: > shelving/rack. Heck I don't have the physical space for my stuff now! All that! > KM> Cuz cloud HDDs now run 20TB, and you're paying a lot more by the > KM> byte for electricity and bandwidth... > > Hope for a big crash and those prices will plummet!! I'll attach 18 > > TB drives to my spare Raspberry Pi 3's!!! > KM> I feel sorry for the Pi. > > I'd give it a cooling fan and a drip basin for the sweat! LOL, it may need it. > > > KM> And it's a big circle jerk: OpenAI invested billions in NVidia, > > KM> then bought billions worth of NVidia GPUs. So the real motivation > > KM> is moving tons of "revenue" to artificially inflate the stock > > KM> price and market cap. > > Well that's one way to get your money back! > KM> Precisely. And an astonishingly inflated stock price and market > KM> cap. > > And I wonder who made money on all that! Gee, I can't figure that out.... > > I've read that. For me generally not working: TV is OTA -- live could > KM> For me not working because TV not hooked up! > > They can make a large monitor! I have had that thought.. it's 1080p, so good enough.... > Oh, speaking of monitors, I have one for the cameras around here (not > really 'security' but more monitoring). Added some (the wireless --> PoE > project, which is on hold because of the weather and other factors) so > neded a larger monitor to see them all (otherwise small images). Wanted > to use a monitor I already have, tried portrait (vs landscape) -- worked > decently except the Fresnel lens or whatever they now use was angled > wrong: if I was in the wrong position the lens did some weird > colour-shifting. You were shifting into a different dimension. > > about "seepy U's". > KM> LOL, smart plumbing. > > Zen plumbing: go with the flow! Too much going and not enough flow! > KM> fsck doesn't recover data; to clear the naughty bits, it usually > KM> deletes the offending file. I've never seen it delete OS files, > KM> but I've seen it nuke multiple GB of user data. > > Whatever it did it fixed the problem so the computer could boot again > but I knew if there was a problem once it's not going to get better. > New SSD! Yeah, it'll fix things so it boots. It doesn't recover files. Doesn't even try. > KM> The problem is when GRUB is updated, it overwrites everything. > > And there goes the Windows boot! YUP! > KM> And apparently does not understand Secure Boot, and maybe not > KM> UEFI boot. > > Does anybody?! Uh, now that you mention it.... > KM> Irish Breakfast in the morning, Moroccan Mint (usually as Bigelow > KM> Perfectly Mint) in the afternoon, that's my drug of choice. > > Off-hand not recalling the Irish Breakfast (whiskey and potatoes scented? ) Plain dark black tea. Strongly tea-flavored stuff. > KM> Just the point, please! > > Joe Friday: Just the facts. > Colombo: Oh, and one more thing.... LOLOL true. þ RNET 2.10U: ILink: Techware BBS þ Hollywood, Ca þ www.techware2k.com --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com (454:1/1) .