Subj : Re: snow..
To   : Barry Martin
From : Ky Moffet
Date : Thu Dec 25 2025 08:15:00

BARRY MARTIN wrote:
> Hi Ky!
> 

>   > No! Use low gear!!  When I first moved to Iowa from New Hampshire did
>   KM> My big truck has so much torque in first that it tries to move
>   KM> the whole road. On ice I have to use 2nd.
> 
> Probably right -- depends on the vehicle but want whatever does slow and
> steady.  Peeling out on ice isn't a good thing!

Peeling the pavement off the road is also frowned upon!!

I did a winter in Boise (where the winter roads are an icy mess) in that 
truck with bald highway tires, and it was still pretty decent -- I slid 
around less than most. It's no good on washboards, tho, dirt or ice -- 
suspension is so stiff that it bounces sideways, plus those 10-ply tires 
are stiff as trees.

Now it has Cooper all-terrains and they are great. They were also the 
choice-of-one in Made in USA (Chinese tires crack) and a doable size on 
the dual rear wheels, so they don't 'kiss' when they flex. They are now 
12 years old, about 30k miles, and still almost like new.

>   KM> Studs are great, but slope is stronger...
>   
> Yup!  I'm not sure how much additional traction the studs gave, but then
> we also need to consider back then the tire treads were different than
> they are now.

A WHOLE LOT of extra traction. I wish I'd held out for studded on the 
little truck, but couldn't find any on short notice, so went with 
Blizzaks, and I hate them. Better than regular tires, doable with 4WD, 
but not nearly in the league with studded, and might have been as well 
to get Wrangler's deep-tread all-terrain. (It needs new summer tires 
anyway. The ones that came on it have lots of tread, but are Chinese 
tires with rubber that's gone hard, and NO GRIP on wet pavement never 
mind snow. Never buy Chinese tires. They are junk.)

Put your studded tires on ALL FOUR WHEELS, even on a 2-wheel-drive 
vehicle. Makes a world of difference. With four studdeds I could not 
skid the Olds on glare ice even if I worked at it. Could stop dead on 
wet ice almost as fast as on dry pavement. (And then I got 6-ply tires 
for it, and it no longer needed winter tires at all.)
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